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Re: Local Admin

Subject: Re: Local Admin
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:32:08 -0400
What it sounds like you are trying to determine is whether or not the administrator account has been changed while the OS is offline. That's a might tricky. The only thing I can up with was periodically dumping the hashes and info on the administrator out of the SAM and diffing it. Which would mean you'd have to keep all that info somewhere, which would be a security hole, but we'll ignore that for a moment. If you cron'd up something that ran with system permissions you could dump this key from each of the machines every day and do a compare.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SECURITY\SAM\Domains\Account\Users\000001F4

IF you decide that people booting off CD's and mucking with clients is more of an issue than storing hashes of all of the local admin accounts, read up on this site for how the SAM is structured:

<http://www.beginningtoseethelight.org/ntsecurity/>

Billy

--On Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:43 PM -0400 Steven <steven@lovebug.org> wrote:

Hello,

Let me try a response to your qustion and precursor it with my
assumptions about your environment.

I am assuming that you are currently in an Active Directory (AD)
environment and that your users are local administrators of their own
machines once logged into their domain account.  My next guess is that
you have a local administrator account on each machine and this is the
one you are interested in watching.

To the best of my knowledge there is no way to do this through AD.  The
local account on the machine is separate from your AD is resides only on
the local installation.  The only way that I know of that you could be
notified of a change is if you have some kind of additional log monitor.
This could alert you to password changes (event id 628) or
attempted(failed) changes (event id 627).  You might also want to look
for account created/deleted events in your logs as well.

Depending on the size of your environment and number fo your staff I
would not say it's unreasonable or impossible to set administrative BIOS
passwords on all of the machines.  This can go a decent way to protecting
machines from being booted from a CD.  It of course will not stop a
determined attacker that's in front of the box.

Hope this helps.. just post back if you have more questions.

Steven

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohamed Abdel Kader"
<mak.pen@gmail.com>
To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:58 AM
Subject: Local Admin


Hello List,

I was wondering if their is a way to monitor if someone changed the local

Administrator, on his/her computer, through an active directory, and how
can

This be prevented in large organizations. It is not practical to change
the

Bios password on all of the computer and the boot order and lock the

Machines; at least in this case.



Thanks all...



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