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Is there a scam in Security Certifications

Subject: Is there a scam in Security Certifications
Date: 28 May 2006 05:56:45 -0000
I came across these posts recently at a forum 

There is more hype than substance in EC-Council. 

Check this link 
https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=429981
 

EC-Council or International Council of ECommerce Consultants is a Nevada 
incorporated company and has NO office in New York as they claim. Pay them a 
visit and there is absolutely NOTHING there. Any enquiry called is always met 
with one response - please email. Try checking their claims before you invest 
in their products 

EC-Council had announced an university earlier this year at Wyoming. They claim 
the certifications would get credits for their masters program. Its a diploma 
paper mill at best that will have its license revoked sooner or later as per 
the legislature revoking all unaccredited programs. Check this link  
http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2006/Digest/SF0069.htm  

From their university website "EC-Council University is licensed by the State 
of Wyoming under Wyo. Stat. 21-2-401 through 21-2-407 and neither the 
Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has 
accredited or endorsed any course of study offered by EC-Council University" 

If you check their members list as well, you will realize that most of them are 
ficticious or hardly involved. Renaming the only program they sell is not going 
to fool the government for long I guess. 

Check this link http://www.eccouncil.org/cnda.htm and compare it with 
http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm - Its the same thing. What is the value for 
existing CEH if they are going to certify some of the candidates as CNDA? 

Everything is the same. There is no alteration. Its not just money here... If 
some of us are going to be CEH and some CNDA, wont one destroy the value of the 
other? They are out to squeeze every last drop of money they can - think about 
it... To do LPT, you must have attended training. Check their website 
http://eccouncil.org/lpt/LPT-Course-Outline.htm 

Look at the cost - 2500 USD and see what you get in return 

Plaque with your name on it 
LPT License card 
Resource CD-ROMS 
LPT T-shirts 
LPT caps 
LPT Certificate 
LPT Lapel Pin 
Membership ID 

The million dollar question - license for what???
 
Why dont we go to archive.org to the wayback machine (as shown in CEH course) 
and look at EC-Council's site. ECSA / ECSP/ ECAD / LPT / etc have been 
announced more than a year ago. Why are there no certifications coming out yet?

The funniest part is that nobody else claims LPT is prestigious - nor is there 
an industry demand or recognition. LPT will grant you the license (to do 
what???). Please mail them and ask what the license stands for? 

 

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