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| Subject: | RE: Determining the encryption used |
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| Date: | Fri, 12 May 2006 09:10:28 -0700 |
John - If what you are describing is an encrypted field within the database, I am not sure that there is anything you can do to determining what the algorithm is. If it is good encryption, the data should be random bits. If you know the encryption key, then you could try a number of the common algorithms to see if they yield valid data. Otherwise, you are going to have to try both the algorithm and the keys, (a very very difficult task with normal algorithms). You might have to resort to pure cryptographic analysis techneques to solve this issue. Bob
-----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:pand0ra.usa@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 11 May, 2006 16:09 To: John Madden Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: Determining the encryption used From what I have picked up cracking passwords, Cain (windows app from oxid.it) has numerous decryption methods in it and will tell you if the hash does not fit. As for the length some encryption protocols can be identified by their length (do not know off the top of my head though). On 5/11/06, John Madden <chiwawa999@yahoo.com> wrote:Hi, While doing a pen-test I came across a database withencrypted fieldsand I was curious to try and see what I would do with it. Is it possible to determine the encryption used by "looking" at the encrypted results or lenght ? I know that with Base64 it's pretty easy because of the "==" at the end. I would like to learn more about the subject and considering the amount of documentation out there, I would like yourcomments on whatyou have used and found usefull. Also if there are any tools besides openssl that you foundusefull totry all the cipher, consecutively with a passphrase/keywordagainst afile/string Thank you for your time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through webapplicationscontinue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutionsto meet yourapplication security penetration testing and vulnerabilitymanagementneeds. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (CenzicHailstorm). DownloadFREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for youto confirmyour results from other product. Contact us atrequest@cenzic.com for details.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request@cenzic.com for details. -------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
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