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flaky network devices, and how to solve the problem

Subject: flaky network devices, and how to solve the problem
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:57:49 -0500
Hey All,

Whether you pentest for a living or are a vendor, I'm curious to find out what kind of gear you've come across that crashes rather easily.

I'm doing some research with the goal of making a business case for some kind of 'Enterprise VM tested' product certification, and seeing if I can get my employer to sponsor or make a push for it. It would take the form of a vendor neutral not-for-profit company/foundation of some kind.

The idea would be that all VM (and related product) vendors would be invited to pool their products. Care would be taken so that there's no way for any one foundation member (or subgroup thereof) to have undue influence, no leak of proprietary information between members, and it couldn't be abused as a marketing tool by the members.

So far I'd like to see the foundation consist of Qualys, eEye, nCircle, Nessus/Tenable, Foundstone, Rapid7, and I'm trying to think of others as well; c'mon, throw me some more names! We'd also test with utils like nmap, amap, etc. Anyone who wants in can get in, small or large. It should be friendly.

Then, submitter-vendors who make network enabled gear would submit it to the foundation for testing, and we'd scan the shit out of it and let them know if it got knocked over, and if so, how. Then the submitters could take this information and improve their product. Everyone wins, etc.

The most common crashing device I've come across are printers, most commonly HP, although maybe that's because they have a larger market share in my experience. I've seen Canon and Lexmark too. And a few other things here and there, of course, as has anyone in this field (and if they haven't, I suspect they aren't telling the whole truth).

Thoughts, opinions, suggestions are welcome, particularly those from other vendors.

Cheers,
Byron

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