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Re: Programming skills for Pen Testers

Subject: Re: Programming skills for Pen Testers
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:08:26 -0500
I think having some basic programming skills are a must when doing
pen-testing and other security work (e.g. looking at virus code, finding
systems changes, etc.).  Over the years I have learned how to debug
code, decompile code, and even writing my own tools, because some of the
open source did not meet my requirements.  I subscribe to developer
magazine and forums to learn.  I even pay to have private one-on-one
classes with some of my commercial security tools developer friends to
learn more. 

In this fast pace security environment in pays to keep ahead of the
Jones................................ (and yes I have a life outside of
work ;)


FocusHacks wrote:

I honestly don't think that programming in C is any sort of a
prerequisite for a penetration tester.  It's perhaps a pre-requisite
for a security researcher.

There was a discussion not long ago where we talked about how many
pen-testers actually sit down, wade through other peoples' code look
for exploitable code, and write PoC code.  Not many pen-testers do
this.  First off, if a person has those sort of skills, they can
probably make more money in development QA than they can as a
pen-tester, and next off, that sort of task takes a LOT of time, and
they wouldn't have enough time in a week to get any pen-tests in, if
they were sitting in front of a computer all day long grokking code.

C++ is object oriented C.  If you learn C++, you'll learn C, and if
you learn C, learning C++ isn't hard, but learning how to think
object-oriented causes some people problems.

Most normal UNIX stuff is just written in plain old vanilla C, though.

On 2/9/06, johnny Mnemonic <security4thefainthearted@hotmail.com> wrote:
  
ok we all know that in addition to good network, host and application
security skills, programming in C is a pre-requisite for a decent pen tester
or at least one who wants to write their own security tools or simply audit
the open source code they use. My question is, despite their similarities
should a pen tester be concentrating on C or C++ ? That's it!

Thanks.

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