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Re: e-mail address mining tool?

Subject: Re: e-mail address mining tool?
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:14:30 +0100
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Sunday, November 6, 2005, 6:36:48 PM, Eyal wrote:

I'm not aware of any tool which can test emails against an address file.
The most efficient approach to achieve this functionality is to write a
simple script which sends the SMTP VRFY command for each entry in an address
file.

Note that some mail servers do not support this command in order to thwart
spammers.

Hi, everyone.

Well, to be exact, almost no servers support this command nowadays.
qmail definitely doesn't. AFAIK, Postfix doesn't either, at least it
didn't the last time I checked. Neither did Exim. Only Sendmail, in
its standard config, responds to the VRFY command. I don't know about
commercial, Windows mailservers, but I found the VRFY command
supported in very few cases. Therefore I would not base anything on
its output.

Also, testing the existence of the user is rarely done on the level of
mail envelope. Therefore, you cannot expect the mailserver to either
reply right after sending the RCPT TO command that the user doesn't
exist or reply in such away after DATA is sent. The only thing you can
expect, is that if the user address is invalid, you will receive a
mailer daemon reply to the MAIL FROM address.

But... This is also not certain. Some mailservers use a default
account for a given domain, eg. qmail, which I specialise in. If such
a setup is made, all mail to inexistant users in a given domain is
directed to a chosen existant account. Therefore you will not receive
any answer from the mailserver, if a bad e-mail address is given in
RCPT TO, since mail will be delivered to an existing user.

Therefore, there is no tool and there will be no such tool. Which is
good, because if there was, spammers would have a much easier life
making databases of existing users, so they can sell them later on.

Cheers,

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Tomasz Nidecki, Sekr. Redakcji / Managing Editor
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