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| Subject: | Re: Passwords with Lan Manager (LM) under Windows |
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| Date: | Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:47:21 -0700 |
philippe.nospam.oechslin@objectif-securite.nospam.ch wrote:
Hello Cedric!
The characterset used for LanMan passwords is the OEM character set used in original IBM PCs.
The reference to 142 characters probably refers to the number of chars that you could type on a standard keyboard.
In recent Window OSs there is no limitation about the character set. You can use any 8bit character that you are able to type in a text box or on a command line.
A quick test on my XP system show that characters above 127 can be used in "net user /add" command. Strangely enough some groups of them generate the same LMHash while generating different NThashes:
128,135 129,154 130,144 131,133,160 132,142 134,143 136,137,138 139,140,141,161 145,146 147,149,162 148,153 150,151,163 152,255 164,165 228,229 232,237
which yields 106 different character above 127.
from the lower 128 chars, tab, space and delete are not easy not enter in an input field.
This leaves us with a total of 231 working characters...
cheers,
Philippe
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