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RE: verify HTTPS 'vulnerabilities'

Subject: RE: verify HTTPS 'vulnerabilities'
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:13:29 -0500
Hi Dan,

According to SSL protocol, the client is the one that tells the server first
the cipher-suite that it supports (in order of preference), from that list,
the Server chooses the suite to be used (as long as one of them is also
supported by the server).

Therefore, you need to specifically propose to the server a list of weak
cipher suite combinations, which is what the Nessus script is probably doing
(a successful connection with a list that contains only weak cipher suites
would mean that the server is "vulnerable").

A tool like Stunnel (client mode) should be helpful to establish this kind
of connection manually. Just specify a list of weak cipher suites; check the
RFCs for information on these. 

Also, remember that the server's only sin here is to accept weak encryption
algorithms proposed by clients; a badly configured client (or one that has
only support for weak ciphers, which should be pretty old in my opinion),
needs to be used here for the vulnerability to be exploitable (during the
time of the connection).

Also take a look at the source code of the Nessus script reporting this
vulnerability to understand more clearly how it is being tested.

The basic authentication thing also looks interesting. I know many use SSL
to compensate basic authentication encoding (BA simply sends user:password
B64 encoded, not encrypted), but this allows for MITM attacks to be used
(Even if only strong cipher-suites were allowed by the server, it looks like
MITM would still be possible using BA). Not to diminish the importance of
weak encryption support on the server, but with current phishing schemes, a
MITM attack looks more critical and likely. 

Check if a recommendation on this matter applies to your client (it will
depend on the purpose and visibility of the server). Since they already use
user/password authentication, it would seem that client authentication
configured on the server, using digital certificates, would be a much better
option to secure access.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Omar Herrera


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Rogers 
Simple question:

I have a report from Nessus telling me that a web server is offering
'export class' cyphers for it's SSL/TLS service. Nessus also managed
to obtain an internal IP address from the host (which is correct).
Only HTTPS is open.

However the target host requires basic authentication, and I don't
have any credentials to obtain access. I would like to verify these
manually, and would usually just use something like wfetch. However,
I'm not getting the usual prompt that my encryption is too weak.
Instead in the response I can see a message saying the page cannot be
displayed. There is also no sign of the internal IP address.

Can anyone tell me how they would prove that they are not false
positives (I know the IP address is correct, but the client may want
to replicate the vulnerability so they can be sure when they go to fix
it)?


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