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| Subject: | AW: Why Penetration Test? |
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| Date: | Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:55 +0200 |
Dear Intel, The things you state motivated me to move into organizational and process consulting. Basically, "every morning, another fool rises" (German proverb). Human failure is a part of every organization, and hardly anybody can claim to be perfect. If you discover organizational and procedural flaws in your customer's organization, you should be able to describe them matter-of-factly in your report and make suggestions on how to get rid of them and improve the effectiveness of the organization. Don't evangelize. Give them the facts, give them your recommendations and let them decide. If they refuse to follow your recommendation or discard it, so be it. You can't save the world. Chances are, you'll be back sometime soon and maybe then they will be ready to listen. And if they need more budget, super! Tell them that they'll need budget to improve their processes, and you're the one to show them how! Just my 2 cents. Kind regards Jörg Maaß -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: intel96 [mailto:intel96@bellsouth.net] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2005 03:12 An: pen-test@securityfocus.com Cc: lists@isecom.org Betreff: Re: Why Penetration Test? <snip> These things require leadership to fix not more funding!!!!!!!!! How do you state that in a report? So IMHO every project is different based on the customer's needs (more funding and more head count). The other issue is how to set the clowns apart from the professionals, which is becoming harder to do because there are more clowns and not enough professional and the clowns are hurting the rest of us.... <snip>
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