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Re: Government Compliance

Subject: Re: Government Compliance
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:23:20 +0800
Many a times we sacrifice policies for conveniences.

Apparently this happened in the US govt which is supposed to be a place where strictest compliance to security policies are to be adhered to.

It depends what kind of employee you are.

If you strongly believe this is not right and you want to get it right, then climb the chain of commands till you get to someone who share the same thoughts as you.

If you know it's not right and you'll rather leave then piss people off, then no further action is required.

If you know it's not right but it doesn't bother you (apparently this is not the case), then carry on with life. But then again if you stay as a Security Professional at a place where security policies are breached, you can't stay long either.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Kevin Lee
Singapore

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave.anon@gmail.com>
To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:50 PM
Subject: Government Compliance



Hello everyone. I know some will view this as a rant and other as
informative, but I am making this post as a sanity check.

For the purposes here, I currently work as an IT Security professional
for the US government. I work at the Department of Government, within
a component named AgencyX. Yes, these names are fictional.

To give an outline or basic background, all government computer
systems are governed by strict requirements for designing,
implementing, maintaining, and securing them. Many of these are
mandatory and are not up for negotiation. Some examples include NIST
SP's, FISMA, DCID 6/3, etc.....

OK....so I received and email from a "IT Security professional"
(qualifications and knowledge very questionable) at the Department in
response to a question I had. I had asked for the definition the
Department was adopting for penetration testing. The response I
received was (scrubbed for anonymity):

"... The guidance for penetration testing was reviewed at [department
committee] meeting... penetration testing shall consist of [product
name deleted] vulnerability scans and running [product name deleted]
for cracking passwords... if this has been done AgencyX shall get
credit for penetration testing...."


Ok, I have big problems with this. There are seperate and distinct requirements for maintaining password complexity, performing vuln scans, AND performing penetration testing. Any industry guideline or resource would never allow this "definition". Am I wrong? Am I over reacting?

When I brought this up to my chain of command I was told "don't rock
the boat". They fully admitted that they knew the definition to be
incorrect in that it was not meeting the intent of the requirement,
but that I should not say anything to rock the boat and just accept
this.

Obviously, for ethical reasons, I am leaving the agency and the department.

Feedback? Thoughts?

-- Dave

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