RE: Mapping Class A network ( any easy trick?)

Look for tools like THC RUT (http://www.thc.org/thc-rut), scanrand
(http://www.doxpara.com/paketto-2.00pre3.tar.gz), and fping
(http://www.fping.com/) to do fast sweeps of your address space,
identifying all responding hosts.  Set up windows every 8 hours (or
whatever), gather all the responding hosts in that window and kick off
the next-higher-level scan on those hosts.  Nmap ping scans (-sP) also
work well and most of them are quite fast.  Try all the different sorts,
UDP pings, TCP SYN and ACK (to different ports), and ICMP echo,
timestamp, and netmask.  Sweep for accessible SNMP hosts with a fast
tool like onesixtyone (http://www.phreedom.org/solar/onesixtyone/).  You
can use ICMP netmask results, traceroute results, and any SNMP routing
tables, to assemble a moderately good view of the network.

Good luck!

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: John Thomas [mailto:mjohn2000_99@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Mapping Class A network ( any easy trick?)



I am about to do a penetration testing on a "Class A
network" and wondering how I can map the network
without pinging 17 million IPs.(nmap -Sp 10.0.0.0/8) 

I did some research and the best information I got is
from one of the earlier post on this
list(http://seclists.org/lists/pen-test/2004/Jul/0067.html)
. It was to use broadcast IPs for pings. But it may miss some subnets. 

Is that the best way to it? If not, please advise