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RE: DoS/DDoS Attack

Subject: RE: DoS/DDoS Attack
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:47:28 -0500
Having seen / been through a few DDoS attacks,  some comments:
 
- The main attacks have been targeting port 80,  ie web sites.
- "small" attacks are 500MB/s-> 800MB/s.
- "large" attacks are multiple GB/s.
- Synfloods come from random source IPs,  that are obviously forged.
- The only viable way to "stop" a DDOS attack is to have upstream providers 
null-route the target IP address (also obviously cutting off access to the real 
product offering as well).
- Most hardware that offers DDOS prevention only does a ok job at it.  Most 
hardware (Cat6500s,  F5,  etc) isn't really designed (usually CPU resource 
problems) to handle the PPS rate that most DDoSs generate.  We've tried all 
sorts of options like syn proxying in hardware,  but nothing has been 
successful except for the TopLayer 5500s that have been mentioned on the list 
(no experience w/ the 100s).
 
The best defense I've found to date for mitigating attacks is:
 
- have a public facing packet scrubber (like the TopLayers) that can understand 
synflood,  keep the state table for millions+ possible source IPs and have 
enough CPU/network power to handle the Mb/s / PPS rates.
 
- You need to have more bandwidth than the attacker.  This can become VERY 
expensive (know how much it costs to have 5GB/s of public bandwidth?).  There 
are some companies that offer "cleaning" services where traffic first passes 
through them,  and then on to you after being cleaned (the customer never sees 
your IP space,  and hence can't target it).  Prolexic or Akamai are a couple 
examples..
 
 
Feel free to contact me off list for more information.
 
- Brandon
 

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