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| Subject: | RE: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed |
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| Date: | Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:55:17 -0600 |
I depends on the student I guess. But yes in my opinion the course is real introductory level, and out dated. In the first day of class one student walked out. I made it to the second day before I left. The instructor was good, he had written several security books on penetration testing and he even recommended against getting the C|EH cert. But there was a few in the class that had no security experience what so ever, and they did benefit some from the class. I would still recommend against it though, especially if they are using their own money to pay for it. Just to clarify how mine was, the Hacking Exposed books covered more information than the CEH class. And they are beginner level as well. I have heard good things about the Advanced Ethical Hacking course from Infosec Institute, but I have not attended it yet. Here is the link http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/advanced_ethical_hacking_training.ht ml The guy that gives the course wrote the Shell coders handbook, which was a really good read. -----Original Message----- From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:32 PM To: Wayne Wooley; Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed What do you mean it was a waste of time. Don't tell me its the basic on networking and computers?
From: Wayne Wooley <wayne.wooley@ps.net> Date: 2004/11/22 Mon PM 04:34:50 CST To: tech.louie@verizon.net, Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix@altadis.com>, pen-test@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: CEH exam & hacking exposed It's a waste of money. My company sent me to the CEH course, and I got my money back after spending a day and half in the class. -----Original Message----- From: Louie [mailto:tech.louie@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:35 PM To: Guillaume Lavoix; pen-test@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: CEH exam & hacking exposed Well see also would like to know this question answered... I'm also looking to get my CEH .... plus what other material should we study? I know in fact that if you take the training course in CEH you get pdf
and other material.
Would anyone that took this CEH course would you be able to share the material with use? LouieFrom: Guillaume Lavoix <glavoix@altadis.com> Date: 2004/11/22 Mon AM 08:55:02 CST To: pen-test@securityfocus.com Subject: CEH exam & hacking exposed Hello, Anybody can tell me if using the hacking exposed book is enough in order to Take & pass the CEH certification ? Thank you, Guillaume
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