I have to agree with you here - the cost of button pushing can be
immense. I think SPI is a great tool, though not entirely perfect. I
can't imagine trying to do multiple or large web sites all by hand - it
simply wouldn't be as thorough for the same money. Of course, the ideal
is to have enough volume for a consultants license for a year, then the
cost is easily justified. That said, a tool is just a tool, and
shouldn't be relied on for more than "brute force" checking of inputs,
etc. Human intelligence is essential to doing a good job.
Mark Lachniet
-----Original Message-----
From: A.R. [mailto:r00t@northernfortress.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:45 PM
To: chuan.delahosseraye@accenture.com
Cc: andrew@beegads.com; pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Web Application Tester
I think that when having to choose between a free and a
commercial tool, it's all about figuring out the return of investment.
If it takes one week to manually inspect an application with
nikto+wget+webscarab+achilles+spike, and only 1 day using Appscan for
the "grunt" work plus 2 days for the manual refinement, the 4
days I gain are worth more than the ~1,000 dollars I have to
spend for a 7-days Appscan license.
In the end, I usually prefer to use Paros (free tool), but I
think that in some situations AppScan/WebInspect can be at
least worth a look, even if their price makes them look
unprofitable at first sight.
NB: I have never used AppDetective, so I am not saying in any
way that the other tools are better
Just my 2 cents, of course :)
A.
On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 15:27, chuan.delahosseraye@accenture.com wrote:
According to my previous search on a Web pen-test tools, AppScan,
WebInspect and Scando are all much more expensive than
AppDetective.
If cost is a concern, it might be possible to combine a
selection of
free tools such as:
- Nessus
- Nikto
- WebScarab
- Achilles
But this would involve a lot of Manual works.
Hope this helps
Chuan
-----Original Message-----
From: A.R. [mailto:r00t@northernfortress.net]
Sent: 15 September 2004 12:27
To: andrew@beegads.com
Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Web Application Tester
Andrew,
I don't know what's your budget, but for web applications
you can try
the following commercial products:
- AppScan, by Sanctum (www.sanctuminc.com)
- WebInspect, by Spidynamics (www.spidynamics.com)
- ScanDo, by Kavado (www.kavado.com)
...Or the good ol' Paros
(http://www.proofsecure.com/download.shtml),
open source and free
Hope this helps
Alberto Revelli
Northern Fortress, Inc.
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 22:49, Andrew Bagrin wrote:
Does anyone know of an application tester similar to AppDetective
thats not as hard on the pocket book?
I need to pentest a web app and am looking for some tools
Thanks,
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