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| Subject: | Re: All tcp ports open? |
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| Date: | Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:28:33 -0700 |
Just a clarification for the list based on Andres' post. "I think it should be safe to say that any *real* program will respond with a banner" This is not a safe assumption, many services do not respond with a banner. Some common examples are Terminal Server and MS SQL Server. Btw, I have seen this behavior when scanning through a sidewinder firewall. The sidewinder has the capability to send a tcp syn/ack packet response after droping the inbound packet. Kinda neat, like a deny response but so much better. :) --------------------------------------- (Msg from BlackBerry Wireless Handheld) --------------------------------------- Erik Pace Birkholz - CISSP, MCSE Foundstone, Inc. Strategic Security Read Special Ops and mount an assault to eradicate network negligence today. www.SpecialOpsSeries.com [Tel] 949.297.5591 [Cel] 323.252.5916 [Fax] 949.297.5575 [pgp] https://www.foundstone.com/pgpkeys/erik-birkholz.asc -----Original Message----- From: Andres Riancho <andresit@fibertel.com.ar> To: Massimo Cetra <mcetra@navynet.it>; 'Ben Timby' <asp@webexc.com>; pen-test@securityfocus.com <pen-test@securityfocus.com> Sent: Mon Aug 30 00:50:21 2004 Subject: Re: All tcp ports open? Ben , What about "nmap -sV" ? this will still give you a complete list of open ports , but also will retrieve the banners. I think it should be safe to say that any *real* program will respond with a banner , so ,only the ports with banners will be the ones you should pen-test. Andres Riancho SOC Impsat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Massimo Cetra" <mcetra@navynet.it> To: "'Ben Timby'" <asp@webexc.com>; <pen-test@securityfocus.com> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: RE: All tcp ports open?
I am not sure what is doing this, but I assume it is a software (or some kind of) firewall/hids, can anybody point me in the right direction? I am pen-testing a Windows webserver, and a port scan reveals ALL tcp ports open. hping also confirms that a SA is returned for any S packets sent to any port I try. I can connect via netcat any of the ports, and send data, but nothing is returned. In order to verify services, I am required to connect and check for a banner or send appropriate protocol commands to elicit a response. Has anyone seen this, or have any idea of what this is?http://www.iptables.org/patch-o-matic/pom-extra.html#pom-extra-TARPIT This is for Linux but may help you finding more informations. Max --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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