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Re: How to use Nessus 3.0.3 (Linux) with Nmap port scanning

Subject: Re: How to use Nessus 3.0.3 (Linux) with Nmap port scanning
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:05:37 +0100 (BST)
It's a complelling case, but that doesn't answer the question about 
including UDP port scan results within a single Nessus scan though - the 
one point og contact so to speak where complete scans can be run?

A.
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Renaud Deraison wrote:


On Sep 19, 2006, at 7:25 PM, A User wrote:



Is there a way to enable "find_service" to use UDP results?

UDP services do not send out a banner, and most of them do not send  
anything back when they receive what they consider to be a "malformed  
packet" (I'm leaving aside services such as SNMP which won't reply to  
properly formed packets which do not contain the proper "secret" [the  
community string in the case of snmp]). So doing service recognition  
actually requires sending nearly as many probes as there are services  
which the find_udp_service plugin would recognize, and coming up with  
good probes would be a non-trivial task when dealing with obscure  
services.

To make things worse, a lot of UDP services are single-threaded/ 
processed and tend to be extremely fragile -- so sending a fairly  
large number of probes will either crash the service, stall it into  
an infinite loop, or just prevent it from replying to other  
legitimate requests.

So we do not do full service recognition for UDP ports -- this is not  
really doable, this is extremely slow and this will disrupt many,  
many things, for very little actual benefits (the biggest class of  
UDP services which could 'easily' be reconignized are MS/SUN RPC  
services -- and you can get their list provided that you can talk to  
the portmapper) -- we have probes for tons of them which run on fixed  
ports, though.


                                              -- Renaud
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