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RE: questions regarding new plug-in policy

Subject: RE: questions regarding new plug-in policy
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:02:02 -0800
Sorry, but I just really love Nessus. It's got to be the best tool I have
used. Of course I really know nothing about it, and so to my naiveté mind
these changes were quite disconcerting. I felt that others out there
probably felt the same way, so I tried to speak up to voice my feelings.
Since apparently I was wrong and no one else cares about the impending death
of the greatest scanning tool of all time - I'll shut up.

-Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: Max [mailto:reply.to.newsgroup@mozilla.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:36 PM
To: Hyland Jeremy J CONT KPWA
Cc: 'Renaud Deraison'; nessus@list.nessus.org
Subject: Re: questions regarding new plug-in policy

Hey Jeremy,

If you're not happy with this policy, why don't you just switch product 
and stop bothering the world with your comments ?

Apparently, no one has ever taught you good manners... Renaud and his 
company have put a lot of effort into this to accomplish the best 
product on the market. Apparently, also, this is not good enough for 
you. If you have never heard of the word *sharing*, I suggest you have a 
good look in your Webster and understand what this is all about.

As far as I'm concerned, I will keep using Nessus as long as it remains 
the good product it is today. If this changes two years down the road, I 
will reassess the situation and see which product offers me the best 
value for my money... but that's *not* now. And *now*, I see no point in 
complaining.

Have a nice day :-)


M@x



Hyland Jeremy J CONT KPWA wrote:
I am most annoyed because I have seen this trend before. Now you want us
to
register, next year it becomes purely pay for subscription, one year later
Nessus isn't even supported any more and is replaced by a proprietary
Tenable product.

Apparently I was mistaken about the number of contributors. I just assumed
that with 2000+ GPL plug-ins, there must have been quite a few people
involved for non commercial reasons.


-----Original Message-----
From: Renaud Deraison [mailto:deraison@nessus.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:06 AM
To: nessus@list.nessus.org
Subject: Re: questions regarding new plug-in policy

On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 08:55:34AM -0800, Hyland Jeremy J CONT KPWA wrote:

But what about my question? Will Tenable be taking legal action against
companies violating the license agreement on copyrighted plug-ins?


I do not discuss such legal matters in public.


In addition, how do you expect me to take your company seriously when you
respond to email in such a manner. 


I speak for myself.


You guys are the ones changing the game
here, so if you want to maintain your formally loyal user base, then you
need to adequately sell us on these changes.


First, we may be the one to "change the game", but I'll remind you that 
we're the one who started it. And Renaud+Tenable are _by far_ the biggest 
contributors to Nessus (both the plugins and the engine), while you've
been 
a user so far. In another mail you stated that Nessus was the work of
"hundreds of developpers". I suggest you look at the CVS logs and
everything to see how many contributors there have really been over
time. 

Second, I don't need to sell you on these changes, because it's not a
vote. If you're not happy with this new policy, then stop using the
plugins we wrote and stick to the GPL plugins. That's plain and simple,
and best of all, it does not require any change on your side.


Third, you still have not told me WHAT the annoyance was. I'm sure that
it would benefit to the whole community if you could underline real
annoyances which I'll be happy to fix, instead of complaining for no
reason.
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