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| Subject: | Re: "Real-time" vulnerability assessment: a product for concept review |
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| Date: | Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:54:13 +0530 |
Hi All: My apologies for wording the post in the manner done; well, one of the aims of the post was to trigger some technical discussion around the idea that has been proposed. And I am glad Jay has brought up a good point. I fully agree with Jay that a target system which is not vulnerable can end up being vulnerable without any config changes done in it. This is due to new vulnerabilities publicly discovered. But, I think there would be no need to run a complete scan in such a case. It would be enough to only run those tests pertaining to detecting the new vulnerabilities that are publicly discovered (since a complete scan has been done before, and there are no config changes in the system since the last scan.) regards, Samir Kelekar Teknotrends Software Bangalore http://www.teknotrends.com
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Samir Kelekar wrote:whereby an agent can be deployed on your system (currently only Windows platform is supported). Through a hosted-server model, VA will be conducted via nessus on the target. (Currently, only external IP addresses are scanned). A white paper is also available on the site. The advantages of such an approach is that no vulnerabilities will be missed. Every time events take place (such as new services started) that may change the vulnerability status of the target system, the agent talks to the server which conducts VA on the target to the extent required. Thus, one does not have to run a VA tool at all; everything takes place in an automatic manner, and one will be intimated whenever new vulnerabilities occur.In respect on Renaud's message on this thread, I have trimmed the quoted text to just the content. There is a point I wanted to make about this though... While I can see the value in something like this and it sounds nifty, it does NOT negate the need to run a VA tool. It is very common for a system to not have any known vulnerabilities today, make absolutely no configuration changes, and then be vulnerable tomorrow. While vulnerabilities often do occur by changes on the target system, every day new vulnerabilities are discovered that were not previously known. Thus, without changing anything on a target system, it can become vulnerable to attack as new exploits are discovered. Again, a system of automatically launching a VA when a target system changes is a good thing. However, it certainly does not negate the need or value of doing a VA frequently - regardless of changes (or lack thereof) on the target system. ~Jay -- .. .. Jay Jacobson .. Edgeos, Inc. - 480.961.5996 - http://www.edgeos.com .. .. Network Security Auditing and .. Vulnerability Assessment Managed Services ..
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