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[ISSForum] Proventia G2000 RSTs

Subject: [ISSForum] Proventia G2000 RSTs
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:05:57 -0500
I've noted an issue in the way that Proventia generates it's RST packets and 
would like to know if ISS will fix it in the future.
 
A simple test, generating traffic that hits a block rule and capturing the 
packets, shows that Proventia doesn't calculates the probable initial 
victim/attacker's TTL, and puts it's own static initial TTL (64) in it's RST 
packets.
 
While we cannot make the choice of simply drop de "attack" packets (don't 
sending the RST) anymore, this is a potential problem, because this well known 
feature shows two important things to the attacker:
 
1) There's a IDS/IPS in the way!
2) The relative position of IDS/IPS to her victim.
 
Of course we can set Proventia to send it's RSTs through the "RST Port", and 
connect this port in a "black hole" segment (like a switch that connects 
nowhere to anywhere), in a way that RSTs never hits their destination. But, I 
think that it's at least more secure to fake not just the attacker/victim's 
IPs, but also de TTL!
 
Just for reference, Snort's flexresp2 actually do this job, calculating 
(guessing) the attacker/victim's TTL and using it to set the appropriate TTL on 
the RST packets.
 
 
PS: My test was made using a Proventia G2000 Firmware 1.2 XPU 1.8.
 
 
Pedro Quintanilha 

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