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RE: [ISSForum] Unable to queue the TCL Request

Subject: RE: [ISSForum] Unable to queue the TCL Request
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:33:52 -0500
Thanks guy's
I havent had any issues since I did what ISS told me to do (basically
update the policy to remove 2 sigs that create a lot of entries.

Shabbir

-----Original Message-----
From: issforum-bounces@iss.net [mailto:issforum-bounces@iss.net]On
Behalf Of KJaeger
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 8:12 AM
To: Jason Baeder
Cc: ISSForum@iss.net
Subject: Re: [ISSForum] Unable to queue the TCL Request


Jason, Shabbir,

this is quite an old issue. In the past we experienced severe trouble at

one of our large customer sites with 6.5U and 7.0 release of server 
sensor regarding TCL processing. However we got engineering support from

ISS on site and finally managed to get this fixed. When you are running 
7.0 SP 4.1 you should be relatively safe. When you are running older 
releases of server sensor please ask support@iss.net for a fixed 
issdaemon and tclproc version or do an upgrade to 7.0 SP 4.1 if 
possible. One potential cause for this message is a large number of 
security events or user defined events that are using the tcl process 
for event verification, e.g. domian controllers processing thousands of 
login requests. Of course any new signature being rolled in via xpu 
could potentially trigger this message and we monitored one case last 
year where this actually happened.

Background Info:
server sensor is using tcl scripts for event verification. The event 
params are getting parsed into different queues. The tclproc.exe is 
reading the queue entries and executing those scripts. The return code 
is used by server sensor to determine if the event needs to get sent to 
the managing system. There are different queues for security events and 
user defined events. In those cases where the queue gets full (too many 
events per minute), you will always see this error. It just means that 
the corresponding event will trigger without further validation by the 
tcl script. In most cases the error will go away as soon as the queue is

being emptied. In some rare cases the tclproc may fail at all and you 
will have to restart the sensor services. Please check your security log

for the number and type of events being logged at the time of the
failure.

Regards
Karl Jaeger

Jason Baeder schrieb:

Shabbir,

I've seen this recently. About 1.5 days after pushing XPU 24.2 to 14
server sensors (all now at 7.0 SP4.1 XPU 24.2), _one_ sensor began
producing this error.  That system is NT4.0.  Before we (security)
could do anything, the sysadmin had rebooted the box.  The errors have
not returned.

One other system that was updated at the same time also exhibited an
error.  This one was a Win2K system that dropped communication with
SiteProtector.  In this case we were able to approach the box with the
sysadmin.  A reboot would have been a drastic measure for this
particular system.  Fortuately, manually stopping and restarting all of
the ISS processes resolved the issue.

Jason Baeder
CISSP, GCIA 


--- "Bashir, Shabbir" <Shabbir_Bashir@csx.com> wrote:

 

ALL,
We have 5 windows server sensors that are reporting this alert in the
thousands. The OS are NT, 2K and 2K3. The sensors are on different
XPU and SP levels. When I googled for this error, I saw a post from
this mailing list
(archives.neohapsis.com/archives/iss/2004-q3/0079.html) that mentions
the same issue.
First I thought, I should install all the XPU's, but one of the NT4
server sensor that is seeing this event shows as 7.0 (SP4.1:XPU
22.37).

Has anyone else seen this alert

   



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