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Re: [Full-disclosure] Free Iraq

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Free Iraq
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:03:48 -0400
Tempting to give a soap-box response, I'll attempt to give this thread a 
graceful exit by saying that I believe the strategic course I've described 
previously is do-able and a welcomed evolution of the US "maintain the 
superpower status quo" vision that so many in power have. The obstacles 
mentioned can be overcome (less painfully than US troops are currently 
experiencing in Iraq). Currently, our choices are: Iraq-style invasion and 
messy/expensive/painful aftermath OR strategic isolationism (where 
intervention is completely shunned). I've proposed an alternate vision that 
is neither of those.

Whether you agree or disagree, it is a broad strategic approach that I 
espouse, not an emotional or reactionary course of action. Security guru 
Bruce Scheier recently blogged about a security mindset 
(http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/03/the_security_mi_1.html) 
(how's that for an IT security tie-in?). I propose that we (and certainly 
our political luminaries) have a "strategic mindset" in this flatter and 
more globalized world that we live in.

- G


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Razi Shaban" <razishaban@gmail.com>
To: "Garrett M. Groff" <groffg@gmgdesign.com>
Cc: <full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Free Iraq


On 3/27/08, Garrett M. Groff <groffg@gmgdesign.com> wrote:
A thoughtful reply was posed to my address rather than the list. I'll 
keep
 the sender anonymous & post my reply since others have posed similar
 concerns:
:-)

 Excellent point. Initially, a "puppet regime" would be in place to run 
the
 country on a day to day basis. Actually, I'm more concerned about the
 pertinent country's 1) access to the global economy as well as 2) 
security.
 Point 2 is obvious enough, so I'll focus on point 1.

As an American, I can understand how that would be the most important
things on your agenda. As someone who has lived in a country with one
of those "puppet regimes," I feel that the only way that these
countries can become benefecial to the global economy is if their
people are freed from their imposed ignorance and servitude. Countries
with 45% unemployment rates, lawlessness and corruption will not
integrate with the global economy.

 Simply stated, countries that have or are moving in the direction of 
broad
 economic integration with the rest of the world (i.e., that are or are
 becoming more "globalized," to use the vogue term) tend to be more 
moderate
 in their ideologies, better (or getting better) in their governance and
 governmental transparency, and more economically productive. On that 
last
 point, I'll take keeping people busy with jobs over the prospect of 
millions
 of "idle hands."
...
 Globalization is the answer to Salafist (Sunni extremist)-borne 
terrorism in
 the long run (or any terrorist ideological movement), as alternate view
 points dilute local/regional extremism and, pragmatically, give people 
other
 things to do. The same effect occurs in rogue regimes, assuming we (or
 someone) is able to "persuade" the heads of state in those regimes to 
allow
 exterior connectivity.

The problem with this globalization is that in conservatives begin to
feel threatened, and often become extremists. I feel that it is this
globalization that lead to the extremism that pervades the Middle
East, creating Islamists. This globalization is the reason people in
the Middle East cry for Bush's head. The Middle East is the only
example I can think of off the top of my head, but I'm sure that
similar extreme reactions occur accross the globe.


 Economics binds people together, even if they're of disparate cultures 
and
 beliefs, and gives them a means of constructive, non-violent engagement 
with
 each other. It leads to idea-sharing that would otherwise be difficult 
and
 discouraged. It leads to distribution of power away from the central
 government, as people compete constructively in the private sector 
rather
 than just politically in the halls of power. Oh, and it also increases
 aggregate prosperity in the region, and by extension, across the globe.

Trade has led to the prosperity of today, but unfortunately I feel
that the capitalism under which trade thrives leads to very unequal
distribution of power. Not the thread for that though :-)


 The strategic vision that I'm suggesting is that we use our global power
 projection as the initial phase in taking out stubborn regimes. That's a
 small part of the picture, but still a necessary piece.

If only those in power wanted to use their power for good, rather than
expansion of their power, the world would be a much better place. I
don't know if humankind has it in itself to overcome its
self-defeating behavior and tries to help those in need.


Just my thoughts :-)


--
Razi


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