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| Subject: | Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Reviewers - Exposed] SecReview ( A + ) |
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| Date: | Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:36:25 -0300 |
I agree with Nate. It's odd how you dismiss any critics as 'trolls,' and only believe that people who compliment your efforts are 'legitimate readers.' As an author and public speaker I know that I get the most value from people who critique my work because they help me to improve. Sure, being slapped on the back feels good, but having someone point out my mistakes helps me to fix them. From: full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Nate McFeters Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:08 PM To: SecReview Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Reviewers - Exposed] SecReview ( A + ) Unless I missed something, these seemed like legitimate responses. They may not have all been delivered with tact, but I mean, you are on FD, what did you expect? I think some valid points are brought up about your credentials and your process. Nate On 12/21/07, SecReview <secreview@hushmail.com> wrote: PaulM: You'd be right only if you weren't wrong. That being said, we're not going to talk to the trolls any more. While it might be amusing it's a waste of our time, and our readers time. We will continue to write reviews and will continue to be as honest and truthful as possible during our reviews. Likewise, if any of our legitimate readers have any questions or comments about our blog, we'd very much appreciate them. We especially want people to comment if they have worked with a vendor that we have assessed, we want to know your experience. Other than that, thanks for your time and thanks for reading! On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:00:40 -0500 Paul Melson <pmelson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 20, 2007 7:19 PM, SecReview < secreview@hushmail.com
<mailto:secreview@hushmail.com> > wrote:
1.) What are your qualifications for reviewing thesecompanies?We are a team of security professionals that have beenperforming awide array of penetration tests, vulnerability assessments, web application security services etc. One of our team members has founded two different security companies both of which have been very successful and have offered high quality services. Yes wehaveall sorts of pretty little certifications, but those don'treallymatter.So this is basically a tacit admission that every one of your "team" has something to gain by smearing the competition. At this point, I'm inclined to believe that the firms you've scored favorably are your employers. You're not only incompetent, it seems that you're unethical as well. Not that I'm surprised. PaulM
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