Did you try contacting his campaign, and asking them if it was theres?
While they may not fess up, it wouldn't hurt.
Actually, it would hurt my wallet, and waste my time, compounding the
loss
already incurred by receiving the spam in the first place.
Also, if you really believed that it might come from his campaign,
I didn't say that.
wouldn't it be worth trying to find out if
No.
Simply postulating that it's his (considering spamming is not a nice
I didn't do that. But now you mention it - why would a spammer
divert precious bandwidth from sending profitable spam? That's gonna
cost him money. Either the spammer donated his resources for free,
or someone paid - and who is that most likely to be? You? Me? Ron
Paul? Hilary Clinton? You decide.
thing) without even checking his record on such a topic, and claiming
"newsworthy" isn't quite... nice.
Check out Wired's take on it here:
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot
It seems the net is somewhat overrun with his apologists.
Stu
On 10/30/07, lsi <stuart@cyberdelix.net> wrote:
I didn't do much in the way of research, cos this is surely spam, and
we know spammers forge as much as possible. So, I presume Derk
Gaston doesn't exist (I note his email address is
janek@stswithxxx.com, unlikely).
I note the mail is coming from .cn, a quick ping and traceroute
confirm this, again, it's unlikely Mr Paul is posting his newsletter
via China.
I also note the forged Received: line containing the hostname
dns02e.hants.gov.uk (this must be forged since it claims that host
has the IP 59.52.247.195, yet my own mailserver has resolved
59.52.247.195 to 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn,
and besides, there's no reason for Hampshire Council to be forwarding
my mail, especially when it's concerning an American politican and
it's sent from China by a guy named Derk with an email address that
starts with Jane ...
Finally I note the randomness inserted and the end of the subject
line and body.
That looks like professionally-produced spam, if its possible for
spam to be professional, which is why I forwarded it, because I don't
recall seeing spammers take much of an interest in politics before.
Unless of course Ron Paul commissioned the spam, which is unlikely
but certainly newsworthy if so. All of these unlikelies got me
curious...
Stu
On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:04, Aaron Katz wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:04:13 -0400
From: "Aaron Katz" <atkatz@gmail.com>
To: stuart@cyberdelix.net
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US
Presidential race
Copies to: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Could you provide a little more information/investigation (I'm too
lazy, at this very moment, to do the background investigation that you
should have provided, like who derk gaston is)? According to the
headers, this looks like it might be forged (not just the little "may
be forged" notice, but the source locations, and even the name of the
person sending the mail - what association do they have to Ron Paul?)
On 10/28/07, lsi <stuart@cyberdelix.net> wrote:
[Well, it could be worse. Spam that wants to end the Iraq war,
great! - Stu]
Return-Path: <janek@stswithxxx.com>
Received: from 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn
(195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn [59.52.247.195]
(may be forged))
by x.y.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l9S5irW8004442
for <x@y.net>; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:44:54 GMT
Received: from [59.52.247.195] by dns02e.hants.gov.uk; Sun, 28 Oct
2007 05:44:51 +0000
Message-ID: <000701c81925$02a66001$93e966b1@qgddwrot>
From: "derk gaston" <janek@stswithxxx.com>
To: <x@y.net>
Subject: Government Wasteful Spending Eliminated By Ron Paul yGVed
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:57:28 +0000
[...]
Hello Scott,
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and the only person not a member on the CFR. Can any other runner
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** RON PAUL WILL STOP THE IRAQ WAR IMMEDIATELY! **
He has NEVER voted:
* to raise taxes
* for an unbalanced budget
* to raise congressional pay
* for a federal restriction on gun ownership
* to increase the power of the executive branch
He HAS voted:
* against the Iraq war
* against the inappropriately named USA PATRIOT act
* against regulating the internet
* against the Military Commissions Act
He will eliminate the IRS, Wasteful Government Spending &
Stop The Iraq War Immediately!
Most importantly, he voted NO on anything in Congress that
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***************************************
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