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Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:30:18 -0500
Is this a political science list or an information security list? ;)  I
mean, I'm all for a debate about the inherent war powers of the President,
or the War Powers Act in specific, but I'm not sure that's really the point
here. ;)

On 10/29/07, Leif Ericksen <lericksen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Either way they are doing it to advance their own agenda.

bottom line that is what their lack of action is all about.  Their own
agenda.


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Leif Ericksen
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:03 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said:

Yes the president can send the troops to war.
Congress is needed to declare war (the president can not do it)
See the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

After World War II, Congress voluntarily limited its use of the power
to
declare war to issuing authorizations of force.

Right.  And Congress wussed out and gave Bush basically a blank check
and hasn't gone back to change its mind.  They gave him that
authorization.

Two weeks ago, during a hearing in the House International Relations
committee,

****I attempted to force the committee to follow the Constitution and
vote to declare war with Iraq.****

COMMENT: If Ron Paul is the author of that Vote for me and I will end
the war he is contradicting himself the the statement found in the
link
I have provided and just outlined.  Does that mean a lie?  Dishonesty?

No, what he did, near as I can tell, was to tell Congress to actually
get
*serious*, and if they wanted a *war* to *declare* a war, rather than
some
mamby-pamby "authorization to use force".  Congress proved not to have
the collective cojones to Do The Right Thing.

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