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Re: [Full-disclosure] FW: Steganos Encrypted Safe NOT so safe

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] FW: Steganos Encrypted Safe NOT so safe
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:56:56 -0600
I have tried to "crack" a safe drive and failed. I am not as crypto savvy as
many on this group are, so my efforts may be view as first level. I did have
a drive sent off to a recovery company a while ago and they were unable to
crack the safe drive. I would think if there was a simple crack like the one
posted, they would have been able to recover the drive.

 

Dan

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From: James Matthews [mailto:nytrokiss@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:27 PM
To: Dan Bambach
Cc: steven@securityzone.org; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] FW: Steganos Encrypted Safe NOT so safe

 

Alot of times people find there bugs but what can we do! How do we know that
the encrypted drives work?

On 4/26/07, Dan Bambach < dan@dbambach.net <mailto:dan@dbambach.net> >
wrote:

When this was first posted, I tried to duplicate the procedure written up 
before sending it off to Steganos. I was unable to, so I thought maybe I was
missing something. Guess not...

Dan

Dan Bambach
R.T.C., Inc.
Engineering/Service Manager
915-584-6646
915-526-7635  (Cell) 
915-584-6265  (Fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Adair [mailto:steven@securityzone.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:32 PM
To: Dan Bambach
Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] FW: Steganos Encrypted Safe NOT so safe

It is funny that this stuff ever comes to surface.  Now I am wondering if 
this a case of trying to spread FUD or someone who just didn't pay any
attention to what was going on?

Steven
securityzone.org

I forwarded the original issue to Steganos as I am a user of their 
software
package.  This is their reply and also posted on Security Focus.

Regards
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: support@steganos.com [mailto:support@steganos.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:56 AM
To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com  <mailto:bugtraq@securityfocus.com> 
Subject: Re: Steganos Encrypted Safe NOT so safe

In response to frankrizzo604's comment, Steganos would like to dispel the
rumor that its Steganos Safe encryption software is easily cracked. 
Steganos
Safe enables users to create any number of secure virtual drives in which
data is safely stored and encrypted. However frankrizzo604 goes through
several steps 'teaching' users how to open others' encrypted files. In his

last step, he claims Steganos will 'PUNISH you by resetting your encrypted
drives passwords to "123" until you buy a registered copy', implying that
the password feature can be circumvented thus opening anyone's safe. He 
conveniently left out that before he was able to reset the password to
"123", he had to enter his original password to open the safe. Then, he
saw
this message box:

http://www1.steganos.com/support/screenshots/safe8_123_infobox.png

It is absolutely not possible to open any Steganos Encrypted File without 
having the original password. The Steganos support and development team
reconstructed the process he described. It is not possible to open a Safe
WITHOUT the original password. In the 2007 generation of Steganos 
products,
Steganos decided to set the Safe attributes to write protect. Steganos
would
like its user to rest assured that their files are in fact still encrypted
and safe from hackers. 



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