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| Subject: | Re: [Full-disclosure] Putty Proxy login/password discolsure.... |
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| Date: | Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:47:30 -0300 |
Exactly. If you´ve managed to lost your root password, deal with the karma, does not make the system insecure by design with a "linux single" feature. Not that a lot of users don´t forget their passwords anyway. On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:57:15 +0530 Raj Mathur <raju@linux-delhi.org> wrote: RM> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 23:14, cardoso wrote: RM> > Exactly. A few years ago I used to deal with linux fanboys showing RM> > them the cute trick of "linux single" at boot time. After a few RM> > hours begging for the admin password, I teached the trick and they RM> > usually stopped the brag about how security Linux was. RM> RM> Can't do that in most modern distributions today -- they're configured RM> to ask for root password before they give a single-user shell. RM> RM> Not that there aren't other ways around that restriction... RM> RM> -- Raju RM> RM> > RM> > RM> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:34:49 -0500 RM> > Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> wrote: RM> > RM> > PS> --On Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:24:11 -0400 RM> > mflaschen3@mail.gatech.edu PS> wrote: RM> > PS> RM> > PS> > Windows offers no security against local users. It is RM> > trivial to boot to PS> > a program like ERD Commander and replace RM> > admin passwords. On the other PS> > hand, PuTTy is meant to RM> > protect against everyone; that's why it doesn't PS> > allow saved RM> > passwords. Thus, this seems like a vulnerability to me. PS> > RM> > PS> Unix offers no security against local users either. If I can RM> > sit at the PS> console, I can login in single user mode, mount the RM> > drives rw and edit PS> /etc/passwd all day. RM> > PS> RM> > PS> Furthermore, I can take any hard drive, with any file system on RM> > it, and PS> with the right tools I can read everything on the RM> > drive, even deleted stuff. PS> RM> > PS> So what's your point? That when you own the box you own the RM> > box? PS> RM> > PS> If you first have to own the box to get to the information, RM> > then it's not a PS> vulnerability. It's not best practice, but RM> > it's not a vulnerability. PS> RM> RM> -- RM> Raj Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ RM> GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F RM> It is the mind that moves RM> RM> _______________________________________________ RM> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. RM> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html RM> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ RM> ------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos Cardoso http://www.carloscardoso.com <== blog semi-pessoal http://www.contraditorium.com <== ProBlogging e cultura digital "You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it" _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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