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| Subject: | Re: [Full-disclosure] RSA HAVE CRACKED PHISHING, NO SERIOUSLY |
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| Date: | Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:33:33 +0100 |
What you mean phishers don't know after every 50 attempts to login on the same host address that you're revoked, and to write a script to ask your 100,000 botnet harvested firstly from the unpatched IE flaw a few days ago, and then use that same 0-day to hack your bank info with via fake BBC news articles is such a difficult thing for a "dumb phisher" to carry out. Yes! Dude, I was on Yahoo when they first locked out brute force login attacks back in 2001, I think i'm comfortable with the techology by now. On 3/31/06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:06:29 +0100, n3td3v said:Check out this article, and I really did spill my hard earned Starbucks right down my front when I looked at this article:http://news.com.com/5208-1029-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15591&messageID=131433&start=3D-1 Given that you allegedly posted that particular response, I take it you spilled your Starbucks in shock that somebody would claim to be you? The original article is at http://news.com.com/2100-1029-6056317.html?tag=tb In any case, it's clear that the person who posted that response has *no idea* how most bank's anti-fraud systems work. First off, the phishers *can't* just run through all the data they've gotten in just a few seconds, unless they distributed the work across a bunch of botnet zombies - hits for more than a few dozen different accounts from the same IP in the same timespan are suspicious at the very least. Secondly, the phishers can currently usually be sure that the victims have given them reasonably good data (unless the victim is a dweeb who can't enter their DoB or account number correctly). On the other hand, if the phished data has been polluted by 90% bad data, then only 1 of 10 attempted transactions will succeed - and the fact that they're trying lots of different bad data will again hopefully trigger an alert. If you only succeed every 10th time, and you get locked out after 3 attempts with different bad data, it's going to take you a lot longer to figure out which ones are good and which ones are bad....
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