Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!

On 12/29/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> > The security directives are secret because you don't
> > show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.)
>
> Uh huh .. so the newspaper informing the public about an illegal
> government program (after holding the article for a year at the
> government's request) is "helping the enemy"

Especially when "the enemy" is anyone who publicly or *privately*
disagrees with the president.  Worse now US citizens are enemies with
no civil rights and are imprisoned indefinately like rats...exactly
what are we defending by spying on our own citizens with no cause is
beyond me.

> It seems so many have forgotten who the true enemy is.
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).

That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
different ways depending on the source.

-sb

> /mike.
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