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Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:20:51 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Paul Schmehl wrote:

That's a silly misrepresentation of the facts of the case. There *is* no law requiring the presentation of ID at an airport. There *is* a law that makes it illegal to hijack a plane, and there *are* security directives, issued by the FAA, which define the means and methods by which the law will be enforced. Among those is the requirement to show ID upon request. The security directives are secret because you don't show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.)

Mr. Gilmore, who is an activist civil libertarian, deliberately entered an airport without an form of ID, then refused to produce ID when requested. When he was then asked to undergo a more thorough screening, he refused that as well. He was then arrested and removed from the airport.

Arrested for what? You already stated that there is no law requiring the presentation of ID at an airport, only a law making it illegal to hijack a plane.


Disobeying a rule designed to prevent an illegal act does not make you guilty of said illegal act.

For example, some states have mandatory waiting periods before buying a handgun in order to prevent someone from getting pissed off, buying a gun, and shooting someone. If you attempt to bypass the waiting period, you may be guilty of breaking a law, but not of attempted murder.

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