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Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:47:38 -0600
That is a good question...  but showing and ID is good enough for you to
purchase alcohol if you are 21 or over in the US.  Folks are supposedly
trained to be able to spot fakes as well they have a book available to
compare them against if they are unsure.  

So with a good fake ID a person can make it on the transport.  With a
fake name and a fake id they can again.  It just raises the difficulty
level a bit.

Now with air travel how hard is it for an East German or say a
Palestinian to travel on the Israeli Airlines (what is its name again)
How about even a US citizen of E German decent or has a VISA stamp from
a country that Israel considers hostile.  Personally I would only know
from what I have seen on the net can anybody tell us of first hand
experiences?

--
Leif



On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 12:37 -0800, Benjamin Krueger wrote:
* Leif Ericksen (leife@dls.net) [051229 12:29]:
Actually MOST states in the US require that you have a photo ID if you
are over the age of 18. It can be A Driver License or it can be a
generic state issued ID.  As far as air travel is concerned, a quick
looks see gave me this:
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?content=090005198004a900

Personally I do not mid the requirement for an ID for air/bus/train
travel.  But if I am driving say from Illinois to Arizona I do not want
to stop at every single states (border) line and show my ID.  That would
be ridiculous.  But for the safety of myself and others on a mass
transit I feel it is fair game.  IF you do not like it drive.

If the airlines start to require a biometric ID (DNA based or otherwise)
then I will complain that is way to far over board.  But asking you for
your passport, DL/or state Id no big deal.


--
Leif

How does showing ID to an official make anyone safer?

-- 
Leif Ericksen <leife@dls.net>

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