Actually MOST states in the US require that you have a photo ID if you
are over the age of 18. It can be A Driver License or it can be a
generic state issued ID. As far as air travel is concerned, a quick
looks see gave me this:
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?content=090005198004a900
Personally I do not mid the requirement for an ID for air/bus/train
travel. But if I am driving say from Illinois to Arizona I do not want
to stop at every single states (border) line and show my ID. That would
be ridiculous. But for the safety of myself and others on a mass
transit I feel it is fair game. IF you do not like it drive.
If the airlines start to require a biometric ID (DNA based or otherwise)
then I will complain that is way to far over board. But asking you for
your passport, DL/or state Id no big deal.
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Leif
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 13:56 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On December 29, 2005 2:05:23 PM -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:04:43 CST, Leif Ericksen said:
There are those laws that are direct and clear cut, and there are the
ones that takes an act of congress to decide what is legal or not. ;)
And then there are those you're not allowed to even *see*. In Gilmore v.
Ashcroft, the Department of Justice finally consented to allow a *judge*
with a security clearance to see the text of the law, but Gilmore and his
attorneys are still denied access to what the law says.
That's a silly misrepresentation of the facts of the case. There *is* no
law requiring the presentation of ID at an airport. There *is* a law that
makes it illegal to hijack a plane, and there *are* security directives,
issued by the FAA, which define the means and methods by which the law will
be enforced. Among those is the requirement to show ID upon request. The
security directives are secret because you don't show your hand to the
enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.)
Mr. Gilmore, who is an activist civil libertarian, deliberately entered an
airport without an form of ID, then refused to produce ID when requested.
When he was then asked to undergo a more thorough screening, he refused
that as well. He was then arrested and removed from the airport.
Every airport has signs everywhere instructing you to provide a photo ID.
Only someone who was deliberately trying to disrupt the system would enter
an airport with ID, refuse to show ID, refuse a thorough screening, and
then complain when they were arrested - after which they file a lawsuit for
large money damages.
So, while everybody eagerly portrays Mr. Gilmore as an innocent citizen
just trying to about his daily life, he was far from it, knew when he
entered the airport he was going to cause trouble, deliberately chose to do
so anyway and now whines about his rights being violated.
Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/
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