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Re: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps!

Subject: Re: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps!
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:18:30 -0800
Firstly,

I have taken many sans courses and in fact was at their last event in
LA.  I already do a ton of work for SANS via my employer and I hold a
couple different GIAC certifications.  So nice try.  Instead of
listing the courses that I think suck at SANS I will list the ones
that are good;










yup... empty list.

On 11/25/05, Exibar <exibar@thelair.com> wrote:
dude....   Those sounds like words that are coming from someone that tried
to pass a SANS exam but failed....or someone that thought they could get a
job working for SANS but wasn't accepted....  I'm not saying this happened
to you, but there is much emotion in your reply.
  What SANS course are you basing this on?  Did you take any SANS courses?
What would you suggest as more ethical than SANS?  A vendor given course
like Foundstone (McAfee now)?

 Just curious....

 Exibar

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On 11/23/05, Exibar <exibar@thelair.com> wrote:
I agree, BUT for someone that is just starting out and want's
to get into
the InfoSec field.  SANS will provide them with a very useful
foundation to
start from.
  if they're a PC tech, and don't know where to start, a SANS
type course
is money well spent.  AS LONG AS they back it up with their own
practice and
research on their own.

WRONG.  SANS does not provide anything but marketing opportunities for
vendors who cannot sell product any other way and a thicker wallet for
those at the top of the pyramid scheme.  I agree that training when
you are starting out is important but SANS is not an ethical or
legitimate training institution and does more to harm security than it
does to help.





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