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| Subject: | RE: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches? |
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| Date: | Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:46:38 -0500 |
Plus, it was shown recently that personal credit card fraud via ID theft is smaller than victimless credit card fraud. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/16/gartner_phantom_fraud/ It is a very good rundown on why the banks just really don't have a reason to chase after them and stop them. -Todd
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Frank Knobbe Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:54 PM To: ken@ftusecurity.com Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Is the Bottom Line Impacted by Security Breaches? On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 10:22 -0400, Kenneth F. Belva wrote:In the paper I ask: "If 40 million customer credit card numbers are exposed in a security breach at the credit card processorCardSystems,why do a significant number of people not cancel their Visa and/or Mastercard?"Simple. The credit card numbers are exposed every time they make a purchase as well. Now, it someone commits fraud with your name and card number (which a convenience store clerk can do himself... no high-profile server breach needed), then the customer is only liable for minimal damages. The risk and liability lies with the credit card company. Perhaps you should ask: "If 40 million customer social security numbers are exposed in a security breach at the credit card processor CardSystems, why do a significant number of people not request new social security numbers?" After all, there is no limit on liability with fraud on those.... Regards, Frank
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