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RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?

Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:55:01 +0000
I have to aggree with Todd on this one, the attack was extremely
unprofessional, and things like this should be left out of mailing
lists. I could carry on, but am forcing myself not to here.

xyberpix

On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 08:38 -0600, Todd Towles wrote:
Umm..and you were the one giving cheers to Norton. Of course AV can be
fooled..and of course a patch from microsoft is the only true way to
fix the problem. 
 
She was attacking you for giving Cheers to Norton. I didn't release
the POC, you did. I am happy Norton is detecting it. If you want to
change your words right in the middle of the sentence, I really don't
care.
 
By attacking me on a personal level, you have proven to me..to be
unprofessional at best.

        
        ______________________________________________________________
        From: Michael Evanchik [mailto:Mike@MichaelEvanchik.com] 
        Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:03 PM
        To: Todd Towles; Elle Chicka; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
        Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike
        Evanchick?
        
        
        Todd,
         
        Listen, you are so wrong i cant belive you even have the guts
        to post this.  How stupid can you be?  Norton or any AVP can
        easily be fooled.  The active x object "ca"+n b"+ +e crea"
        +ted" like this. code changed around , or even different local
        code can be used and tada AVP is fooled.  Only a true patch
        from microsoft or disable the help control in the registry is
        going to stop this.  Her concern is wise.  
         
        Mike
        www.michaelevanchik.com
         
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Todd Towles 
                To: Elle Chicka ; full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com 
                Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:36 AM
                Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of
                this Mike Evanchick?
                
                
                Well, if you have Norton, it couldn't wreak
                havoc...now could it? Most of the AV compaines are now
                detecting the exploit. This detection response is much
                faster than most of the other exploits which are
                wreaking havoc on your network, so it would sound.
                 
                Nice work to Norton.
                
                        
                        ______________________________________________
                        From: full-disclosure-bounces@lists.netsys.com
                        [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@lists.netsys.com] On 
Behalf Of Elle Chicka
                        Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:16 PM
                        To: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
                        Subject: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of
                        this Mike Evanchick?
                        
                        
                        You so proudly posted this:
                        ------------------------
                        
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.phel.a.html
                        
                        mike
                        
                        www.michaelevanchik.com
                         
                        ------------------------
                        Obviously you are just tickled to see that the
                        kiddies were able to so quickly turn your
                        point/click sploit code into a virus to wreak
                        havoc on my network.
                        
                        Thanks a lot for helping to make all of us a
                        little less secure over the holiday's.
                         
                        
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