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RE: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:46:07 -0500
 There are too many factors that could play a role in this. We need to
reduce the factors more before we point fingers at any certain part. KF
has given us a good start.

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From: full-disclosure-admin@lists.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@lists.netsys.com] On Behalf Of KF_lists
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:55 PM
To: Mailing List - Full-Disclosure
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

Will *ANYONE* that actually got hacked do me a favor and type:
"uname -a"
Then include that in your next email. I keep hearing "fully patched" 
server however I have a feeling the Kernel was left out of the patching.

-KF


Todd Towles wrote:
Hey Ron,

Guest isn't a admin so they let the tool get in. But the real 
questions is, how does it get root access on a fully patched server? 
It appears to use a local exploit to gain root access. This is a
problem.

Sorry about the eariler e-mail, I haven't had my coffee today. Trying 
to cut back and spend that money on IT security =P

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@lists.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@lists.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Ron 
DuFresne
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:08 AM
To: Tig
Cc: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning



the real thing this user most likely suffered from was the weak 
account passwd double, guest:guest.  Now, if the admin and other 
account were setup with strong passwd's and this account was either 
setup with a strong passwd or not setup at all might be a better test 
of the stability of ssh and the debain setup in question.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tig wrote:


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:47 -0400
Gerry Eisenhaur <GEisenhaur@Cisco.com> wrote:


I am confused, you said you knew about some SSH scanning going on, 
then set up those accounts on a box. Now you are curious way that box

got rooted?

Maybe I am missing something, but it seems you already have a pretty


good assumption of why it got rooted.

The software, as you seem to know, is a few exploits, a backdoor and


some IRC stuff(bot and proxy).

/gerry


I think you did miss the point (which was a very good one). Basically,


once you have unprivileged access to a currently patched Woody box, 
you can quickly gain root access.

I would love to see this tested against other version of Linux and 
*BSD with default (and updated) installations. Anyone have a spare box


and a few hours?

-Tig

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