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| Subject: | RE: Do we still need scheduled scan? |
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| Date: | Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:37:01 -0700 |
We've been fortunate to have our users "trained" to log off or restart their systems at night so nightly scans can take place. But we face the same pain with our laptop users (including myself when on call) as when we start up our laptops in the morning the "background" scan makes systems painfully slow for a few hours. But, we've had inactive viruses dropped into systems from web sites that weren't caught by our gateway filter that has been picked up by the nightly scans. We've picked up latent malware through our nightly scans as well. The Internet is such a hostile business necessity that we just can't ignore any opportunity to increase our defence in depth, including full nightly scans. Steven Hay Community Savings -----Original Message----- From: kyle.moffitt@sophos.com [mailto:kyle.moffitt@sophos.com] Sent: December 29, 2005 10:07 AM To: Bruce Martins Cc: dfox168@hotmail.com; focus-virus@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: Do we still need scheduled scan? I guess I'm not "telling" anyone anything, except which parameters generally dictate best practices when considering system-wide scanning strategy. Either way, "my" AV product is irrelevant to the question posed -- and further qualified by a legitimate business problem -- which was essentially "is this additional scan necessary with respect to all my other defensive measures, AND the substantial overhead it consumes?". If I thought the conclusion reached based on those parameters was a recipe for disaster I wouldn't have offered such a reckless suggestion, especially under my moniker. Is schedule scanning "pointless"? In a perfect world, no. But as it stands, its business value may decrease when all other things are considered. It's just another risk calculation we all must face in this topsy-turvy world, my friend, so I'm just offering it as I hope you would take it: FWIW. No apologies necessary. Kyle Moffitt Sophos, Inc. "Bruce Martins" <BMartins@extend. COM> To <kyle.moffitt@sophos.com> 12/29/2005 11:43 cc AM <dfox168@hotmail.com>, <focus-virus@securityfocus.com> Subject Re: Do we still need scheduled scan? So your telling everyone that scheduled scanning is pointless because your av products with real time scanning are perfect? That is recipe for disaster, no impact on a user that isn't there running a full scan every hour doesn't make sense either, using all of the capabilities of the products is best and having a fall back layer of a scheduled full system scan doesn't hurt, calling this costly is nothing compared to lost data or downtime to the user and or network Apologies if I misread your response as I am on the move at the moment Bruce Martins Systems Administrator EXTEND>>MEDIA 190 Liberty Street Toronto, Ontario Canada M6K 3L5 _______________________ e:bmartins@extend.com t: (416) 535-4222 ext. 2307 f: (416) 535-1201 http://www.extend.com -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: kyle.moffitt@sophos.com <kyle.moffitt@sophos.com> To: Bruce Martins <BMartins@extend.COM> CC: dfox168@hotmail.com <dfox168@hotmail.com>; focus-virus@securityfocus.com <focus-virus@securityfocus.com> Sent: Thu Dec 29 10:35:10 2005 Subject: Re: Do we still need scheduled scan? This approach presumes updates are infrequent (> 1hr apart), and/or innacurate or expensive proactive detection is employed. The cost/benefit of relying on on-access scanning (esp. for client machines) vs. costly and redundant scheduled scanning is almost always in the end user's favor. FYI, best practices differ based on the engineering of AV software, and a particular vendor's global response capability to emerging threats. Suffice to say, no two AV are alike. Kyle Moffitt Sophos, Inc. "Bruce Martins" <BMartins@extend. COM> To <dfox168@hotmail.com>, 12/29/2005 09:59 <focus-virus@securityfocus.com> AM cc Subject Re: Do we still need scheduled scan? You should still run a scheduled scan sometimes things are missed in between dat file updates, if you run the scan late at night there should be minimal impact. Bruce Martins Systems Administrator EXTEND>>MEDIA 190 Liberty Street Toronto, Ontario Canada M6K 3L5 _______________________ e:bmartins@extend.com t: (416) 535-4222 ext. 2307 f: (416) 535-1201 http://www.extend.com -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: Doug Fox <dfox168@hotmail.com> To: focus-virus@securityfocus.com <focus-virus@securityfocus.com> Sent: Wed Dec 28 17:28:04 2005 Subject: Do we still need scheduled scan? If we have already implemented virus scan at the gateway, on the mail server, on individual servers, and real time scan on workstations/laptops, do we still need scheduled, e.g., weekly, scan on workstations and laptops as well as servers? Schdeuled scans really slow down some machines. Any comments are appreciated. Thanks, Doug -- Kyle Moffitt Senior Account Executive, Sophos Tel: 781 973 0110 Web: www.sophos.com Sophos - integrated threat management -- Kyle Moffitt Senior Account Executive, Sophos Tel: 781 973 0110 Web: www.sophos.com Sophos - integrated threat management
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