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| Subject: | RE: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind |
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| Date: | Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:05:08 +0100 |
We take the same layered approach. Trend IWSS at gateway with Trend OfficeScan inc Firewall / Anti-Spy on desktops, complimented by either Spybot / MS AntiSpyware, and we do find that one system will detect stuff the others don't. Trend especially appears to detect lots more problematic cookies than any of the others. The layered approach is the best, as you can not depend upon one vendor getting updated dat files out quicker than the others, but by having multiple layers you increase your chances of getting a update for one of your range of products quicker. And Spybot and MS are both free, so it should be feasible for everyone to have a layered approach. Rgds, K. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Klein [mailto:bruce.klein@iovation.com] Sent: 25 October 2005 22:20 To: Quark IT - Hilton Travis; focus-virus@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind There will never be a perfect solution - don't wait. For the moment think of Spyware as cold weather and you want to be protected (warm); put on layers to protect yourself. Symantec has updated themselves to add Spam and Spyware to their antivirus product. We are using Symantec, Websweeper, MS anti-spyware, and Whole Security (behavior based AS). You might say this is overkill but who knows for sure - while they all play nice together I feel like I am at home by the fireplace with a good supply of logs. Regards, Bruce Klein |Director of IT O:503-943-6750 C:971-645-7304 F:503-224-1581 www.iovation.com -----Original Message----- From: Quark IT - Hilton Travis [mailto:Hilton@quarkit.com.au] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:51 PM To: focus-virus@securityfocus.com Subject: Microsoft AntiSpyware falling further behind Hi All, It seems that not only does Microsoft AntiSpyware recommend that Claria's spyware is ignored, but it also misses a significant amount of cookies that are placed on a system - I have a VPC environment where I browse the Internet so that anywhere I go won't affect my regular Windows session/installation. Regularly CounterSpy is detecting cookies (such as Cok.ad.yieldmanager, CGI-Bin, Cok.AssassinTrojan2.0 and Zedo (from yesterday's browsing)) that Microsoft AntiSpyware simply does not know about. Now, this is not only disappointing, but potentially dangerous. Any customer or end user running Microsoft AntiSpyware or CounterSpy is not being protected from these cookies, and MSAS doesn't even detect them - that's right, neither program's active monitoring is stopping the installation of these cookies, but at least CounterSpy is detecting them post-installation. AntiSpyware is far, far from the accuracy of antivirus, especially something like NOD32. I wonder how long it will be before a decent AntiSpyware application is released that, like NOD32 does with viruses, actually stops spyware *before* it is installed? -- Regards, Hilton Travis Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889 (Brisbane, Australia) Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394 Manager, Quark IT http://www.quarkit.com.au Quark Group http://quarkgroup.com.au/ Microsoft Small Business Specialists http://www.threatcode.com/ <-- its now time to shame poor coders into writing code that is acceptable for use on today's networks War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left. This document and any attachments are for the intended recipient only. It may contain confidential, privileged or copyright material which must not be disclosed or distributed. The information contained in this email message may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this email message in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message and any attachments. ********************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This email is private and confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not named as an addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information contained in this email. If you are not the intended recipient of this email please destroy this communication and contact: itsecurity@terex-irl.com Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company unless otherwise stated. The contents of any attachment to this email may contain software viruses which may damage your computer system. The Terex Group has taken all reasonable precautions to minimise any risk, but cannot accept responsibility for any damage which may be sustained as a result of any such viruses. The recipient should conduct their own virus checks before opening any attachment to this email. www.powerscreen.com **********************************************************************
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