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| Subject: | Re: Manageable Spyware Solutions? |
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| Date: | Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:37:59 -0500 |
Eset has never allowed their product to be independently tested as part of AV-Test.org's ongoing efforts in response time and retrospective testing. The few times I've tested the claims, heuristic detection is accomplished only by using the commandline nod32 /ah (if at all). Conversely, McAfee does participate in AV-Test.org response time and retrospective tests. Their rate of heuristics is one of the highest. Regards, -- Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Quark IT - Hilton Travis" <hilton@quarkit.com.au> To: "Charles Ong" <ocharles2004@yahoo.com.sg>; <focus-virus@lists.securityfocus.com> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions? Hi Charles, It looks like you have not used NOD32 yet. Its heuristics are far from inaccurate and in over 3 years I've not had a single false positive. So, it looks like what you've been told and what we've experienced are two totally different things. Also, remember that there are some products with ineffective and unreliable heuristics engines - McAfee comes to mind here. You can stick with whatever product you want - it's a free world. :) Which is why I stick with NOD32 - it makes it a safe world. My clients definitely appreciate NOD32 and Quark IT for recommending NOD32 to them. -- Regards, Hilton Travis Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889 (Brisbane, Australia) Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394 Manager, Quark IT http://www.quarkit.com.au Quark AudioVisual http://www.quarkav.net http://www.threatcode.com/ <-- its now time to shame poor coders into writing code that is acceptable for use on today's networks War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left.
-----Original Message----- From: Charles Ong [mailto:ocharles2004@yahoo.com.sg] Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:42 To: Quark IT - Hilton Travis; focus-virus@lists.securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions? Hi quark, to my knowledge, heuristics is in accurate and creates lots of false positive. Moreover, Finjan has been blocking many unknown viruses on my side... I am using it and am ok with it. unless there is something like what esafe claims they can do... -----Original Message----- From: Quark IT - Hilton Travis [mailto:hilton@quarkit.com.au] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:41 AM To: focus-virus@lists.securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions? Hi Charles, If you're looking to a spyware/adware tool to block viruses, I think you're looking the wrong direction. Its kind of like looking for a driving school to teach you internal combustion engine mechanics. If you want an AV solution that can detect unknown viruses, then NOD32 is what you need. It detected the latest rash of Bagel worms without knowing what they were by its heuristics engine. Better to block it before it does damage than to wait until you have a name to block (like many of the other large AV vendors). -- Regards, Hilton Travis Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889 (Brisbane, Australia) Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394 Manager, Quark IT http://www.quarkit.com.au Quark AudioVisual http://www.quarkav.net http://www.threatcode.com/ <-- its now time to shame poor coders into writing code that is acceptable for use on today's networks War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left.-----Original Message----- From: Charles Ong [mailto:ocharles2004@yahoo.com.sg] Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:17 Can it block unknown viruses too? Based on what I am using now, Finjan is able to stop IM p2p and tunneling too... I am now using Finjan to block AOL/ICQ, hotmail but allow only yahoo... ;) -----Original Message----- From: Steve McNamara [mailto:Steve.McNamara@ealaddin.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:26 AM Pat, I work for a company that sells a product called esafe. This product blocks adware and spyware at the gateway level. Also, it blocks P2P, IM, and tunneling. Even though, I work for the companyI believethe product is the best out their for content filtering. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Jordan [mailto:patrick_jordan2003@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:51 PM Has anyone found an antispyware product that is centrally manageable, doesn't chew up crazy levels of resources (on server and client), and is still highly efficient at catching latest spyware / malware variants? We've tried a couple of the products from early entrants in this area, but they've been pretty unimpressive - but manually running Spybot / Ad-Aware combo on workstations also seems a losing proposition. Have a feeling this topic has already been done & dusted, but any thoughts much appreciated ...
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