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RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions?

Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions?
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:48:51 +1000
Hi Charles,

It looks like you have not used NOD32 yet.  Its heuristics are far from
inaccurate and in over 3 years I've not had a single false positive.
So, it looks like what you've been told and what we've experienced are
two totally different things.  Also, remember that there are some
products with ineffective and unreliable heuristics engines - McAfee
comes to mind here.

You can stick with whatever product you want - it's a free world.  :)
Which is why I stick with NOD32 - it makes it a safe world.  My clients
definitely appreciate NOD32 and Quark IT for recommending NOD32 to them.

--

Regards,

Hilton Travis                          Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889
(Brisbane, Australia)                  Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394
Manager, Quark IT                      http://www.quarkit.com.au
         Quark AudioVisual             http://www.quarkav.net

http://www.threatcode.com/ <-- its now time to shame poor coders 
into writing code that is acceptable for use on today's networks

War doesn't determine who is right.  War determines who is left. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Ong [mailto:ocharles2004@yahoo.com.sg] 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:42
To: Quark IT - Hilton Travis; focus-virus@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions?

Hi quark, to my knowledge, heuristics is in accurate and 
creates lots of false positive. Moreover, Finjan has been 
blocking many unknown viruses on my side... I am using it 
and am ok with it. unless there is something like
what esafe claims they can do...

-----Original Message-----
From: Quark IT - Hilton Travis [mailto:hilton@quarkit.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:41 AM
To: focus-virus@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Manageable Spyware Solutions?

Hi Charles,

If you're looking to a spyware/adware tool to block viruses, I think
you're looking the wrong direction.  Its kind of like looking for a
driving school to teach you internal combustion engine mechanics.

If you want an AV solution that can detect unknown viruses, then NOD32
is what you need.  It detected the latest rash of Bagel worms without
knowing what they were by its heuristics engine.  Better to block it
before it does damage than to wait until you have a name to 
block (like
many of the other large AV vendors).

--

Regards,

Hilton Travis                          Phone: +61 (0)7 3344 3889
(Brisbane, Australia)                  Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394
Manager, Quark IT                      http://www.quarkit.com.au
         Quark AudioVisual             http://www.quarkav.net

http://www.threatcode.com/ <-- its now time to shame poor coders 
into writing code that is acceptable for use on today's networks

War doesn't determine who is right.  War determines who is left. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Ong [mailto:ocharles2004@yahoo.com.sg] 
Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:17

Can it block unknown viruses too? Based on what I am using 
now, Finjan is able to stop IM p2p and tunneling too... I 
am now using Finjan to block AOL/ICQ, hotmail but allow 
only yahoo... ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve McNamara [mailto:Steve.McNamara@ealaddin.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:26 AM

Pat,
    I work for a company that sells a product called esafe. This
product blocks adware and spyware at the gateway level. Also, 
it blocks
P2P, IM, and tunneling. Even though, I work for the company 
I believe
the product is the best out their for content filtering.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Jordan [mailto:patrick_jordan2003@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:51 PM

Has anyone found an antispyware product that is
centrally manageable, 
doesn't chew up crazy levels of resources (on server
and client), and is 
still highly efficient at catching latest spyware /
malware variants?
 
We've tried a couple of the products from early
entrants in this area, 
but they've been pretty unimpressive - but manually
running Spybot / Ad-Aware combo on workstations also 
seems a losing proposition.
 
Have a feeling this topic has already been done &
dusted, but any thoughts much appreciated ...

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