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RE: MacOSX worm

Subject: RE: MacOSX worm
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:40:29 -0600
If it has no way of self propagating then it cannot be called a worm and is
more accurately classified as a virus.  Yes it can be spread by file sharing
as any other virus can.  What makes worms unique is the ability to spread
without user intervention.  

It looks like in this instance, the term "worm" is being used loosely.
Users must still swap files to spread the virus as was the case with media
sharing (floppy's, etc.) in the days before the Internet.



-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Trewick [mailto:STrewick@joplings.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:26 AM
To: 'H Carvey'; focus-virus@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: MacOSX worm




Well, the reg
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/25/mac_rootkit_opener/says

says the malware "contains a variety of destructive 
functionality including a keylogger and backdoor components."

The Symantec write up linked from the article
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/shrenepoa.htmlhas 
lists side effects including "Deletes files off the computer", and "Modifies
passwords", both of which could be considered 
destructive actions.

Perhaps the semantics in the reg article are a bit off, but
I hardly think they can be accused of spreading FUD.

You could always email them and ask for clarification, 
they are a fairly approachable lot.

As for the AV industry, I see no reason why they should downplay 
the threat (quite the opposite surely ?), but since the Symantec 
write up classifeis it as worm, and claims it spreads by file shares, 
and the user write ups at http://www.macintouch.com/opener.html
suggest something different again, perhaps the combined effect
*becomes* FUD

Same old same old.  

Steve

















-----Original Message-----
From: H Carvey [mailto:keydet89@yahoo.com]
Sent: 26 October 2004 17:09
To: focus-virus@securityfocus.com
Subject: MacOSX worm




SF has a Register article about Opener/Renepo-A.  The article
describes this as a "rootkit" (the term is, in fact, used in 
the title of the article), yet Sophos (linked in the article) 
classifies it as a worm.  Neither the Register article nor 
the Sophos write up describe any rootkit-like capabilities.

Here's the Symantec writeup: 
http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/macos.renepo.b.html

The Register article calls the "rootkit" "destructive", yet
doesn't describe any destructive capabilities.  However, the 
Symantec writeup does.

So...what's the real deal?  Is the media spreading FUD, or is
the A/V community downplaying the effectiveness of this bit 
of malware?

Thanks,

Harlan Carvey
"Windows Forensics and Incident Recovery" http://www.windows-ir.com



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