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RE: Solaris 9 authentication and access control into Active Direc tory

Subject: RE: Solaris 9 authentication and access control into Active Direc tory
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:48:28 -0700
I'll second Mr. Myers' endorsement of Vintela's VAS.  We have an
environment that's a mix of Sun, HP-UX, AIX, and Linux.  HP 11.0
doesn't have PAM at all and the support in 11.11 is weak; AIX 5.1 is
also problematic.  

VAS works pretty well across all of them.  We've had some problems but
have had no show stoppers, and Vintela's support has been excellent.

Ted Rodriguez-Bell
Wells Fargo Services

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Myers, Mike wrote:
We have been looking at a similar project except that it needs to be
cross platform (Solaris and HP-UX).

We found some limitations in the SEAM product (and to be honest, HP's
product as well) in that if the user was in too many Windows group the
PAC (Privilege Access Certificate?) which gets tagged onto the end of
the Kerberos ticket by AD causes the ticket to exceed the size that will
fit in a single UDP packet.  The AD server would return an error
(52/0x34) which SEAM said was "undefined" because it was at the time
SEAM last pulled source from MIT but has subsequently been defined as
"RESPONSE_TOO_BIG."  The client is supposed to switch to TCP and redo
the request, but SEAM doesn't know this and bails.

We put requests in to both vendors to fix this and neither seemed really
excited to do it.  Sun's response was, "It'll be in Solaris 10..."

Given that level of support, we started looking at commercial vendors
and found a company called Vintela who has a pretty nice package called
"Vintela Authentication Services" which is cross platform and has some
other nice features (eg. a nice snap in to manage the Active Directory
side of things in MMC, etc.).

I just today received notice that they've released a new version which
at first glace appears to address some of our concerns when we demoed
the software a few months back.

Generally the company seems very eager to please and willing to
integrate changes that we asked for.

Cheers,
 - Mike Myers, Mike.Myers <at> nwdc.net



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