Yes, but decoding encoded scripts is trivial. The fact that a vb/jscript
can be encoded should not have any bearing whatsoever on ones decision to
publish sensitive information in a logon script.
t
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"And yet, even if one person finds his way... that means
there is a Way. Even if I personally fail to reach it."
Mr. Nobusuke Tagomi
Top Place, Ranking Imperial Trade Mission
Pacific States of America
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison (ISA)" <Jim.Harrison@microsoft.com>
To: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@hammerofgod.com>; "Info" <Info@hbdk.de>;
<tth8@cornell.edu>; <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: Changing local admin PW using vb logon script - can it be
encrypted?
True, but vb/jscripts can also be encoded.
While this is far from perfect, it'll keep Jo(sephin)e User from reading
anything within.
Note that this is also the technique used by one of the first script worms
"ILoveYou" to "obfuscate" itself.
Jim Harrison
Security Platform Group (ISA SE)
If We Can't Fix It - It Ain't Broke!
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@hammerofgod.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:02 PM
To: Info; tth8@cornell.edu; focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Changing local admin PW using vb logon script - can it be
encrypted?
One should also note that any login script in sysvol is, by default,
readable by all authenticated users. All anyone has to do is browse to
\\domain.com\sysvol\domain.com\scripts and they can just open up the vbs
file. Not a very good place to put "secret" information.
t
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"And yet, even if one person finds his way... that means
there is a Way. Even if I personally fail to reach it."
Mr. Nobusuke Tagomi
Top Place, Ranking Imperial Trade Mission
Pacific States of America
----- Original Message -----
From: "Info" <Info@hbdk.de>
To: <tth8@cornell.edu>; <focus-ms@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 9:32 AM
Subject: AW: Changing local admin PW using vb logon script - can it be
encrypted?
Hi Tom,
3 possible options out of the mind:
- Use GPO setting for a default admin pwd => Hashed PW will be transmitted
by applying the pw (not really save, but better than
cleartext)
- Use SMB-Signing for Client/Server requests/replies => secured
transmission of logon events (cleartext, but secured in a signed
transport layer)
- Use IPSec for network traffic => best solution ever for secure
transmission of IP-Traffic but most efforts for rollout & running
an enviroment
Hope it helped ;)
Andreas Habedank
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Schliersee
Mile2.com CPTS Instructor / CEH / MCSE / RSA SecurID SE
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Von: tth8@cornell.edu [mailto:tth8@cornell.edu]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2005 18:03
An: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Betreff: Changing local admin PW using vb logon script - can it be
encrypted?
Hi all,
Long time lurker, first time poster. We have roughly 500 computers that
we'd like to change the local admin passwords on. We
realize the security risks of having 1 password on all of our computers and
are willing to assume that risk. We've developed a VB
script that we can implement as a logon script that works perfectly to
change the password. We do not want this script sent along
as clear text if we can avoid it. Is there any way we can encrypt this
script?
We've looked at options such as using Windows permissions to either deny
Domain Users access (preventing anyone from reading the
script) or allowing only Domain Computers Read Only access.however I think
that if you are logged into a local computer you should
be able to read the script. Not to mention, if you could capture the
packets, you could easily find the script and its contents so
permissions would matter at all in that scenario.
Any help and/or insight is greatly appreciated.
Best,
.tom
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