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| Subject: | RE: exploit to vulnerability |
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| Date: | Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:50:33 -0500 |
Yes, WSUS does allow you to have unique approvals on a per-group basis within the same WSUS server. This is new functionality that did not exist in SUS. This provides an excellent opportunity for segregating desktop and server systems, as Richard has alluded to. By configuring the desktops to download and install updates at a scheduled time, you can effectively update all desktops within 24 hours of approving the update without any further action. Having a small test group that are configured to "Auto-Approve" all critical and security updates might also be a good component of such a strategy. As Richard noted, if those updates installed immediately upon release do not affect the machines of knowledgable, competent desktop users (e.g. the IT Department), then approve them for general distribution 24-48 hours later -- or perhaps over the weekend following Patch Tuesday. Of course, that does then touch on the original question of the thread which is relative to "how fast" to apply the updates. Really that's a question that needs to be decided on a case-by-case basis. Some updates, while desirable to be installed, won't actually involve risk to your desktops, because the vulnerability isn't likely to penetrate perimeter firewalls to begin with. Others, those that involve exploits distributed via email, for example, have immediate risk to all email-enabled systems within your network. In such cases, be also aware of the availability of deadlines, which can be configured on a per-update, per-group basis, and can be used to force a guaranteed installation of the update (within 22 hours) if the deadline configured is a date/time in the past. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Milliner [mailto:tom.milliner@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:11 AM To: 'Richard Whitworth'; 'Murad Talukdar'; focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: exploit to vulnerability Does WSUS let you have one server give different approved updates to different groups? I don't think SUS did that. Tom Milliner, CPA, MCSE 2404 Summer Place Dr. Irving, TX 75062 (214) 540-2741 tom.milliner@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Whitworth [mailto:Richard.Whitworth@hsbp.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:18 AM To: Murad Talukdar; focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: exploit to vulnerability Hi, I use WSUS for dektops - I have one computer group configured for myself and my technician. As patches appear the are approved for us, if they don't cause any issues they are then approved for the rest of the desktops. Turn around can be as little as a day. Servers are a different matter, I tend to install the patches at planned maintenance intervals so I have to take a view as to whether the issue is serious enough for me to reboot the servers or if other layers of protection such as AV software would mitigate any potential threat til the next planned maintenance interval. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Murad Talukdar [mailto:talukdar_m@subway.com] Sent: 19 August 2005 07:11 To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: exploit to vulnerability With all the issues highlighting the speed that exploits are now being written (eg http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11285 ) The window between exploit/vuln, appears on average, to be getting tighter. We have an SME network and I used to have a week or so to test patches before rolling them out. This all begs the question now, with limited resources, do I just patch and not worry about testing? I definitely have fewer resources than some of the companies that were hit (CNN et al) and less time to dedicate to patching. Should I just use auto updates/GP to patch everything regardless? What do other SME admins do? 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