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| Subject: | Re: To disable SMB packet and secure channel signing enforcement on Windows Server 2003-based domain controllers |
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| Date: | Tue, 03 May 2005 15:26:33 -0700 |
Soluk, Kirk wrote:
If you disable the SMB signing requirement it means that all your SMB based DC to member communications will be subject to MITM attacks. The primary concern here is your group policy download. In short, the SMB signing requirement provides the assurance that your group policies do not get tampered with in transit. Similarly, disabling the secure channel encryption\signing requirement means that you have no guarantees on all your DC to DC secure channel data (although sensitive information within the secure channel session (e.g. password derived data) will always be encrypted.
It makes absolutely no sense to me how an app could be forcing this issue unless it's really old or running on a SAMBA machine. Is that the case?
I would push back hard on this. You do not want to take this step backward. You have to be running some pretty old or insecure stuff to have to disable these settings - SMB signing was introduced in NT4 Service Pack 3!
Kirk Soluk University of Michigan Information Technology Security Services
-----Original Message-----
From: Murad Talukdar [mailto:talukdar_m@subway.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:32 AM
To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Subject: To disable SMB packet and secure channel signing enforcement on
Windows Server 2003-based domain controllers
Hi All, We have had arrival of new scanner/printer/copier in office. It uses SMB to scan files to shared folders on our W2003 network. In order for it to work however, I have had to do the following;
1. From Administrative Tools open Domain Controller Security Policy 2. Smile 3. Select \Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options folder. 4. In the details pane, double-click Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always), and then click Disabled to prevent SMB packet signing from being required. 5. Click OK. 6. In the details pane, double-click Domain member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always), and then click Disabled to prevent secure channel signing from being required. 7. Click OK.
Before that, the scan would fail to be sent to the server in question. What are the implications of this--given that we do not ostensibly use SMB for anything else. I've heard scare stories of SMB man in the middle attacks and was under the impression that this is what these specific security settings were pertaining to but am not sure.
There are other options for the scanning ie ftp/email but neither would work as we cannot get approval for cost of ftp server nor can the email system take the file sizes that are often req'd by scans our users make.
I can see there will be advice against having shared user folders etc on DC's too but the big boss wants more from less if you see what I mean.
Kind Regards Murad Talukdar
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