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| Subject: | RE: Automatic Updates and Users/Power Users |
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| Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:30:16 +1000 |
As far as reporting and ensuring update are installed, it is weak in SUS.
There are some various reporting tools out there that parse log IIS log files for you and give you a basic overview of which workstations received patches, or you can always go the old fashioned route and read the Windows Update.log file on x number of workstations :) Not sure if someone has suggested using MBSA too to check whether the patches have been done after a push--or shavlik? http://www.shavlik.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Wrights, Joshua C [mailto:c-jwrights@state.pa.us] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:53 AM To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Automatic Updates and Users/Power Users I would definitely suggest reading the SUS deployment guides - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/susdeployment.mspx - if you haven't already. While the Windows Update functionality doesn't change per say when using SUS, if you are using GPO's to push the policy there is definitely some differences depending on whether the user is local admin or not. Local admins will have the right to click "No" to reboot at a later time while regular users will not... and so on. As far as reporting and ensuring update are installed, it is weak in SUS. There are some various reporting tools out there that parse log IIS log files for you and give you a basic overview of which workstations received patches, or you can always go the old fashioned route and read the Windows Update.log file on x number of workstations :). If good reporting is what you seek, check out the WUS beta and see if that might better fit your needs. Hope this helps. -Josh -----Original Message----- From: Rasmus Rønlev [mailto:rr.its@cbs.dk] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:14 PM To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: Automatic Updates and Users/Power Users Okey, If my first post gets through, that needs to be semi-disregarded, was a bit quick on the reply button there. Sorry. The Windows Update program/service runs as the System Account. And if it's set to automaticly download and notify it will ask anyone logged on interactively, for permission to install the downloaded patches. Since it has rights from the system account it will install updates no problem in this setting, from a normal user account and upwards. No problems at all. If you use SUS nothing much changes except your Windows Update service will now only download updates, that you have accepted to roll out on/from your SUS server. In this way you can potentially delay or block rolling out certain update packages, which you might not want to deploy in your enterprise. The same download/install behaviour described above will still be in effect though. I.e. you can use it for everyone with User privileges and up. I hope that answers the questions somewhat more to the point :) Regards, r@smus . Rasmus Rønlev Copenhagen Business School, ITSu Cell: (+45) 29612544 Phone: (+45) 38153521 Fax: (+45) 38153536 -----Original Message----- From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@pinnaclefinancial.com] Sent: 12. januar 2005 17:56 To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com Subject: Automatic Updates and Users/Power Users If Automatic Updates is not set via GPO to contact an SUS Server but has been set to download updates and notify to install, will a user or power user be able to initiate the install? If Automatic Updates is set via GPO with the same download/install, but from an SUS server, does anything change? Essentially, how do I ensure, using Automatic Updates, with and without SUS, that a computer that the daily user only has User or Power User Access, that the updates can be installed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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