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| Subject: | Re: Subdomain security |
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| Date: | Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:29:07 -0500 |
Hello Oren - First - I would like to state that I feel sorry for you and your situation.... not an easy one to over come. Management that is.... Well, I would start out by asking if you can set up a site-to-site VPN? That would be the most secure way of implementing your solution. If you opened all the ports needed to have a forest root talk to a sub domain, you might as well not have a firewall. Here is a small list of the ports that I am talking about - 42 wins TCP/UDP 53 domain TCP/UDP 88 kerberos 123 ntp UDP 135 loc-srv TCP/UDP 137 nbname TCP/UDP 138 nbdgram UDP 139 nbsess TCP Now - take the last few ports...those would be the main ones that would open up your network to just about every virus that targets Microsoft systems.... anyone else on this list would agree that 135/137 are the worst ports to open to the outside world. Again, I would suggest getting a site-to-site tunnel working - any other way would be disasterous for your organization. Just do a quick google for ports used by Trojans....that should stop all discussions. Unless they (management) thinks that AV will stop those .... Good luck! Rich |---------+----------------------------> | | Oren Held | | | <oren@held.org.il| | | > | | | | | | 12/15/2004 06:24 | | | PM | | | | |---------+---------------------------->
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Hello, I have to install a *secure* windows domain inside an insecure network. This means that my domain will be behind a firewall ofcourse. Now, I've got two possibilities for the domain configuration: Option 1: My domain would actually be a subdomain inside the insecure forest. Option 2: Create a totally new forest. So, surely option #2 is more secure, but the management pushes to choosing option #1. so.. few questions about option #1: a. Which ports should be opened by the firewall in order for the subdomain to function well but be the most secure? Any references? b. Does an admin (a member of the Enterprise Admin group) from the root-domain have access to my subdomain? Can I prevent it at all? c. Do you know any networks that implement option #1 with a firewall and think they're quite secure from the other domains, or is it a totally twisted idea? Thanks a lot people, - Oren --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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