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| Subject: | Re: Microsoft rights management server alternatives |
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| Date: | Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:24:27 +0000 (GMT) |
Jimi, The purpose of most IRM software is not to stop malicious intent of people using tools like you described. All systems can be gotten around with enough intent. For most organisations this is a sackable or criminal/jailable act (depends on where you work). IRM and the like are to stop the accidents of forwarding to friends, friends forwarding to friends, those friends forwarding to the press for example and loosing control of some IP or information that ends up in the wrong hands and outside of your organisation. Yes you could even put your laptop on the photocopier also :-) At the end of the day it is a security policy not a security enforcement. It requires the author to define the importance of the document/email, not everything gets pretected. Josh --- Jimi Thompson <jimi.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
The DRM stuff is all a seriously bad joke that's been played out on management. You still have to TRUST the people that work there. If I can display it on my screen, no matter what else fails I can get my nifty camera and take a photograph of the document or whatever I'm not supposed to be able to pass around. If I can play it through my speakers or headphones, I can whip out my trusty old casette recorder and tape it. Where's your DRM then? Neither of these are particularly high-tech approaches and are well within the reach of the average schmoe. Further more, if I have sufficient rights to open a document, let say that I copy and paste from the contents of your DRM document into a new document. How do you track the rights to that? It's better to be loyal to your employees so that they are loyal to the company and don't want to sell you out to begin with. More software isn't going to fix that. 2 cents, On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:06:11 -0500, Thompson, Tichard <tichard.thompson@pharma.com> wrote:Checkout LiquidMachines which is a stand aloneproduct and alsoworks with an existing RMS infrastructure. Alsolook at Authentica.Their solutions are a lot better as well as beinga lot more expensive.T.J CISSP -----Original Message----- From: Lists [mailto:sakaba@alexandria.cc] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:30 PM To: <focus-ms@securityfocus.com><focus-ms@securityfocus.com>Subject: Microsoft rights management serveralternativesHi everyone, I am looking into rolling out a solution likemicrosoft rights serverthat can encrypt files and assign decrypt rights.I know of Hibun inJapan as well by Hitachi and was wondering ifanyone was using anythingelse. Regards, sakaba
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