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RE: ADSI question

Subject: RE: ADSI question
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:32:14 -0400
That is opposite to my experience. An old client in Fla had an NT 4.0
domain that migrated to new AD. After users migrated some of them could
not log in and we needed to reset the passwords. We used Bindview tools
for the migration. Others, please any feedback?

-----Original Message-----
From: c0ncept [mailto:c0ncept@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:26 AM
To: Paul Aviles
Cc: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: ADSI question



 AFAIK it won't disable them; enabling strong
passwords doesn't muck with the existing passwords, it essentially turns
on a flag that causes the GUI / password API to reject non-strong
passwords. This is analogous to checking your data integrity in an
application instead of a database.  We used a migration tool to upgrade
our domain and migrate it into an existing forest at the same time. The
existing forest had enabled strong passwords, but we hadn't on our
domain. After the migration, our users could continue using their weak
passwords, until the first time the password expired, then they were
forced to choose a strong password.

--- Paul  Aviles <paviles@adjoined.com> wrote:

Arthur thanks,
Well, is for documentation purposes. For audit and documentation
purposes it needs to be done. The client is on AD
already but if we
enable strong password doesn't that mean that all
the passwords that do
not meet the criteria get disabled? That has been my
experience in the
past..

Thanks
-pa

-----Original Message-----
From: afreyman@dsw.net [mailto:afreyman@dsw.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:13 PM
To: Paul Aviles; focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: ADSI question


I don't believe you can use ADSI to accomplish that.
That's a pretty
useful idea, but definitely a security risk. The
closest you probably
can come to that is to perhaps run the MBSA tool
against your server. I
know that it reports if a user has a weak or a blank
password for SQL,
but I am not certain about the domain passwords. A
more drastic approach
would be to run a password cracker against your SAM
and see what types
of passwords are out there.

But I don't really understand why you need to do
that. I am sure someone
will correct me if I am wrong, but complexity
requirements are enforced
when a password is changed or created. Existing
passwords can remain the
same. New rules will apply when the passwords expire
or a new account is
created.


You are correct about the install of AD in the new environment. As far
as the in-place upgrade, my best guess is that
Windows 2003 will enable
the complexity requirements regardless of your
previous security policy.
It shouldn't be too much of a problem though. You
can leave the policy
in place and wait for user's password to expire or
you can disable it
right after your upgrade completes. 


Arthur Freyman


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Aviles [mailto:paviles@adjoined.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:31 AM
To: focus-ms@securityfocus.com
Subject: ADSI question

Is it possible to use ADSI to query user accounts
and find if they are
using a strong password? Before using GPO's to
enable it, I need to have
an audit and show how many people don't have them.
Is this a property
of the users?

Also, I believe that when you install AD in a new
environment by default
it has strong password enabled. Is that the same
when you do an in place
migration?

Thanks

Paul


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