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RE: spambots and dictionary attacks

Subject: RE: spambots and dictionary attacks
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:17:18 +1300
Hi,

Most attacks these days seem (vastly) distributed, the most effective
thing I have found is to use grey listing as this stops 99%+ of botnets
dead, they simply do not re-try the connection later. Personally I have
found no other technique as effective.

regards

Steven Jones
Senior  Linux/Unix/San System Administrator
APG -Technology Integration Team
Victoria University of Wellington
Phone: +64 4 463 6272 Mobile: +64 27 563 6272 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]
On Behalf Of Peter H. Lemieux
Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2006 3:09 a.m.
To: rowland onobrauche
Cc: focus-linux@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: spambots and dictionary attacks

rowland onobrauche wrote:

I would like to hear from anyone that has successfully blocked
spambots or dictionary attacks without the need of another server
in between your mailserver and the senders.

Peter H. Lemieux wrote:
The only effective solution I've found in these cases is to
maintain a whitelist of the valid addresses for the domains I
manage and block the rest.
[...]
If all the mail for a domain is routed to a single mailbox, you can
implement whitelisting with a bunch of procmail rules in the
mailbox owner's .procmailrc.

Many thanks Peter.
Im familiar with procmail, but im looking for a way of blocking the
connection before the smtp commands have even got to the DATA stage.

Dear Rowland,

At the SMTP level I use the excellent store-and-forward smtp daemon 
written by Obtuse Systems in the mid 1990's and released under an 
open-source license.  They no longer maintain the code, but it has been 
taken over by a volunteer and is listed on Freshmeat 
http://freshmeat.net/projects/smtpd-sd/.

This daemon allows you to write rules based on the server's sender IP
and 
reverse-hostname and the MAIL FROM and RCPT TO addresses in the SMTP 
exchange.  So I maintain client whitelists by including a set of rules 
allowing the valid addresses through and denying the rest.  (It also
runs 
in a chrooted environment for additional security.)

I didn't mention this approach because you ruled out solutions that
might 
require another server.  It is possible to use smtpd on the same server 
as your MTA, but it takes a bit of work.  I don't use exim so I don't 
know how easy this would be for you.

All my incoming mail arrives on the server running smtpd which then 
forwards the permitted traffic on to my scanning server (running 
MailScanner, ClamAV and SpamAssassin).  This has worked quite well over
a 
period of years.

I suggested the procmail approach because it wasn't clear how much 
control you had over the server (is it yours?).  The procmail solution 
would work even in a hosted environment, while you'd obviously need to
be 
the server's owner to change the smtp daemon and MTA.

Peter



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