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Re: rooted ?

Subject: Re: rooted ?
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:32:01 -0400
Have you tried using Rootkit Hunter?
http://www.rootkit.nl
I've been using it for the past few months and find it pretty accurate
and does not product any false positives. The developers of rkhunter
are also constantly updating the program and its database of rookits
and other security hazards.

Josh


On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:40:45 -0400, Coleman <cokane@cokane.org> wrote:
I have found that chkrootkit can cause some false positives with this
check alot. Basically this check takes the output of ps (or whatever
means it uses to determine running procs) and compares that with what it
sees in /proc/. If it finds any discrepencies, it dumps that info to
you, and I suppose the claim that there may be an LKM rootkit installed
is because that is a common way to hide processes, installing an LKM to
modify the kernel structs. I have a high-traffic mailserver which
constantly has quickly dying/starting procs for mail delivery (qmail),
it causes this error much of the time.



On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:21, Jason Rusch wrote:
Sorry if this is not the correct forum,

Curious a day or so after a up2date on a fedora 2 system, I noticed very 
sluggish behavior. After checking obvious things such as netstat, du, 
nmaping it from another machine and checking ps commands thoroughly I found 
nothing abnormal. I then moved onto running a few rootkit scanners, all 
showed cleaned (for what its worth of course), I used both the tarball and 
rpm chkrootkit and scanned my machine with both.

The strange part is, is that the one ran from source showed everything to 
be ok, the rpm showed 23-35 hidden processes, possible LKM rootkit 
installed. now after running the cmd " /usr/lib/chkrootkit-0.43/chkproc -v" 
I found the processes within the /proc and checked the status/info on all. 
they were all sleeping process from application I run all the time 
(evolution, mozilla, nautilus ). I booted the machine in init3 and without 
X and I didnt have this problem.

The machine normally boots in init5, now if I start X then the problem 
arises, now I dont know if this is the right forum, but I would not think 
that I am rooted (optimistically said) and this is some weird iissue from 
an update. 1 more note all the hidden processes were  owned and ran under 
my user account. Any input from anyone would be great. and no I didnt get 
Tripwire installed or record a MD5sum record ooopps

anyway just a day or so ago I read somewhere there may be a latency time 
diff. between the threads that are running and the chrootkit detection thus 
causing the discrepancy?



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